Here is the key problem, anons. While Trump was POTUS, the semi-prosperous gun owners of America could sit easy. They had their guns, and they were not likely to starve to death. They assumed that they could avoid violence because Team Trump would restore the Republic without violence. In St. Louis, a lawyer with a working gun and his wife with a non-working gun were able to face down a crowd of rioters. And there were millions of deer hunters with good rifles in the red states.

Now the situation is less stable. There is no timeline for when Trump might be vindicated. Blue state lawyers are eager to harass Trump. Team Biden might actually be competent enough to disarm some of the deer hunters. Even if Team Biden is totally incompetent, they might wreck the economy so badly that half of the deer hunters go bankrupt and cease to be effective potential militia. (A bankrupt militiaman might not starve, but he might lose his reputation among his community, his health, and his guns.) All of us are mortal and we're going to die some day. Most of us will probably die of ill health without ever firing a shot in anger. But if red-state deer hunters die of ill health or starvation, that weakens America. Currently there are millions of deer hunters and the "blue states" would suffer the most from a civil war. But if 99% of the deer hunters were to go bankrupt, the "red states" would lose a civil war almost instantly.

A die-hard Trump loyalist would say

<"Trust the plan, blame yourself for Team Trump's apparent failures, trust that some apparent failures are just Sun-Tzu tricks so that Team Trump can appear weak while being strong. And while you're at it, become a local political organizer so that you with your limited budget can do a better job than Trump did with a big budget."

Heck, maybe those die-hard Trump loyalists are smarter and better-informed than I am. But if, in 2021, a large percentage of deer hunters are going bankrupt, starving, losing hope, then some deer hunters will switch over to "killdozer" mode. That would be a personal tragedy for their families, but that would ALSO weaken the "red state" culture of America significantly. I personally cannot organize a roadside lemonade stand, much less a local political movement. Do the "red states" have enough local political organizers to keep the deer hunters from starving?

>>12929288

I read Larry Johnson frequently. He writes at a high-school level so I understand his stuff. Bill Binney is a 200+ IQ super-genius; I can't understand his technical knowledge, but I believe him to be a white hat. Ray McGovern is a Christian.

So … if these are the team that writes the Q drops … I trust them more than I trust nearly any politician or cop. I trust them more than I trust Ivanka Trump, for that matter. And I really, really hope that they know what they are doing.

>>12929346

>but Q's 1st post re arrest of HRC that never happened

More accurately, we do not have documents to prove that it happened. Lots of people get arrested but the arrest is not made public knowledge. You could try to look up all the times that a local driver has been arrested for speeding. Unless you're a private eye or a cop, you'll be surprised at how difficult it is to document arrests.

>>12929392

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>>12929406

>when that information is no longer a matter of national security and can be publicly disseminated, you'll have your confirmation.

which is possibly true speculation, and possibly false speculation.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, that we ultimately find out that Q team consisted mainly of Larry Johnson and Bill Binney, and that their initial prediction of the arrest was a mistake. Well, well, these are warfighters, not demigods. Most warfighters don't hit the bullseye every time. One failed prediction doesn't do much to undermine the movement that Q started; the idea of that movement is that Pizzagate is real, but Trump will stop the pizza merchants and bring them to justice.

I don't believe Q team is perfect. I think Q team is made up of flawed, mortal human beings. You don't retreat on the battlefield just because your lieutenant has acne and an annoying habit of picking his nose in front of the troops.

>>12929526

>AT WHAT POINT CAN WE ALL ACCEPT HE WON THE ELECTION WITH 80 MILLION VOTES

Votes only count if they are cast legally. Biden got an effectively unlimited number of illegal votes because the vote counters were willing to keep adding fake votes until they could steal the election.

>>12929646

> the machines were all fucked over, there is no way to audit this trainwreck without the network data.

>

>The usmil has that data, too.

So long as the US military finds a way to use that data to remove the fake pretender and restore the republic, I have no right to complain. Currently, I don't know whether the fake pretender is gaining control or being held prisoner by "praetorian guard" warfighters.

>>12929695

>You wouldn't say this trash to a real Patriot like myself in person!

Perhaps you are an Israeli and you are a true patriot loyal to Israel.

>>12929145

>Not sure how long I will be able to wait for the plan. The only reason why it's unfolding so fucking slowly is because of those weak ass normies sipping fake news everyday. What the fuck are we supposed to do, wait here while it's unfolding just because these retards are slow to wake up ? Fuck these shits, burst their bubble for fuck sake, send them to the hospital who cares at this point they are rooting for evil and will have to wake up one day or an other anyway.

>

>I'm pissed, I'm not a shill I'm just beyond frustrated with those morons, I can't remember the number of times I thought it was happening. Not calling for violence either, I'm just trying to figure things out while this fucking farce lasts forever. If this is just the beginning I won't last long at this rate, I lost my mind for years now, barely hanging by a thread. So much promises, so much need by EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, but we take it slow for the brainwashed fucktards. Meanwhile children are fucking getting tortured as you read this,

You make valid points. I don't have any good answer, but you are voicing the important issues.

My personal theory is that Q team wants to look more calm than they are. They want to appear that their plan WOULD be popular but they can't share it. Perhaps their plan would be UNPOPULAR among patriots if it were known, but it's the only plan they can execute, so they are making excuses for unpopular policies.

The ordinary man-in-the-street would not make a successful warfighter, because the ordinary man-in-the-street has no patience for stupidity if he personally has enough strength to punch the stupid people. A successful warfighter must have a tremendously blind obedience to authority; a successful warfighter must instinctively force himself to obey stupid orders from unworthy leaders. I fear Q team often frustrates us because they are loyally bending to accommodate stupid military customs and courtesies. (In b4 "customs and courtesies are not stupid, you faggot" comments.)

>>12929628

You have a good point: the highly competent survivalists and hunters are so competent that they will prevail. However, must law-abiding gun owners are NOT highly competent survivalists. Their guns might be compensated; they might get the Bundy/Finicum treatment.

And if a police officer claims there is a red flag, those law-abiding gun owners might VOLUNTARILY surrender their guns.

>>12929898

illustrated this scenario.