>>13172259

I totally get where you are coming from. From a standpoint of morality, stealing elections is wrong.

Unfortunately, there is no definitive evidence that breaking the code of morality, which is a loosely defined construct in itself and varies hugely depending on who you ask, has any repercussions in itself.

I could go off on a tangent on how the absence of a unifying code of morality might be the root cause of the mess we find ourselves in, but that is not the point now.

The point is, that if you can not 100% be sure that morality is somehow intertwined with the laws that govern the principles of what happens in this universe, then the argument that the people are not to blame because the election was stolen from them might be true in some sense, but absolutely counterproductive when it comes to actually remedying the situation as it is.

>>13172324

I appreciate that you get where I am coming from.

I think the problem is that obviously, we live in a society where too many people are either too lazy and trusting to realize what is happening around them or they straight up do not care.

Now maybe that is by design. But as long as it is actually possible to think for oneself as demonstrated by this movement, the argument does not hold much water.

I do not have a good solution to this conundrum.

There are always going to be cunts in this world who, rather than profiting off of their own labor and the gifts of the universe, look to rip off the fruits of the labor other people completed.

Devils advocate would say that they could defend themselves against being ripped off, but then everone would need to be constantly paranoid and armed to their teeth.

This is the reason we created what is now called a society, and placed the monopoly of legal use of force in the hands of the government.

Unfortunately, it takes around 200 years at max until aforementioned cunts make their way into positions of power of said government.

So you would either need some way of guaranteeing a 100 percent cunt free society, or you would just have to accept that societies need purging every now and then.

Neither sounds very nice and I am open to hear better premises for how this could play out long term.

>>13172346

>what can one do ….?

Exactly. Is it efficient to try and wake up as many as possible?

Is it more efficient to try and acquire as much power as you can and govern fairly over the sheep?

Is it no use and you should just mind your own beeswax?

Pray and hope god figures it out?

>>13172350

Slave morality

>>13172350

But how do you counter this way of thinking?

>>13172380

This presupposes the populace even sees a need to be educated. Censorship and completely controlled establishesd education system aside.

>>13172397

Just bouncing around ideas.

We need some based leaders in this world.

Also sometimes I dont know if I am waking people up or just MK Ultraing them some other way

>>13172399

>you have to get them accustomed to a form of system that enables overthrowing tyranny…

Which is also kind one of the founding principles of the USA, is it not?

I would hazard a guess or job here is at least 99 per cent done.

>indeed it does seem to always come back to fear as their means of control.

Fear.. and lack.

You nailed it pretty much. It`s a bitch to reverse.. sheesh..

>>13172416

Were all just doing our best arent we

>>13172439

I`d like to lead a quiet life with my friends and make a big family

But I would go lead for a few years if nobody else will, because if nobody does there won`t be a world worth putting a big family in.

Quite the conundrum.

>>13172443

Still hoping for a bit more flood and a bit less drip drip

>>13172464

Mostly China

>>13172534

Redpill me on parasitic aliens

Dont bore me with that national geographic shit