Who wrote the Torah and who wrote the Talmud? Are rabbis defined or established by Moses and the Torah in the book of Leviticus? Where did the concept of rabbis come from? Babylon? Chaldeans? What is/was the source of the Chaldean, "religion?" Nimrod?
Oh, so you believe the new testament then huh? Great.
Who were the FIRST Christians? Jews or Gentiles? Who, over time, pushed the Jews out of the church?
Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
Rom 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
Rom 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Rom 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
Rom 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
Gentiles Grafted In
Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
Rom 11:14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
The Mystery of Israel's Salvation
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
Rom 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
Rom 11:35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
Did I say Paul? No. Jews in general. They were the FIRST Christians. After the Jewish leaders, i.e. the rabbis, Sanhedrin, Pharisees etc, rejected Him, they crucified Him, but many Jews also believed and became the first Christians. It was only after some time that salvation was offered to Gentiles. In fact, there was quite some discussion among the apostles because there was some consternation going on about Gentiles not following what the Jewish followers thought they should be, namely Mosaic law to the letter, which even the Jews were unable to do themselves.
Many early church leaders failed to see that redemption is for all men, that Gentiles did not have to come under the Mosaic law to become Christians, and that Jewish Christians did not have to continue under it. Peter himself had this problem. It took an angel, a Gentile centurion named Cornelius, and a vision for Peter to see that the Gospel was for all men. Peter, having been on a long journey, desired something to eat. While his meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw an object like a great sheet coming down from heaven containing all kinds of four-footed animals, crawling creatures, and birds. “And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean” (Acts 10:13, 14). Then the voice said, “What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common” (v. 15).
“Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean” (Acts 10:17). Then three men came telling him that “Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God” (v. 22) was directed by a holy angel to seek and listen to what he had to say. Peter went to Cornelius and told him, “Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for” (vv. 28, 29). Peter explained later, “Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him” (vv. 34, 35). He then told them of Jesus Christ.
Making salvation available to Gentiles without them becoming Jews was something new to Peter and some of the other early church leaders. The apostles received the great commission to preach the Gospel to all nations (Matt. 28:19; Luke 24:47; Acts 1:8), but they were slow to realize this meant preaching to others besides the Jews and their proselytes. Yet there was some preaching to others, as may be seen in Philip’s preaching to the Samaritans (Acts 8). For the most part, however, the concept of the Jews being God’s chosen people and the Gentiles being “common or unclean” was firmly grounded in the Jewish mind, and it influenced their outreach. The early Christians even failed to grasp the full meaning of Peter’s experience with Cornelius. When they were scattered because of persecution after Stephen was stoned to death, they continued to speak the word “to none but unto the Jews” (11:19).
https://truediscipleship.com/early-christians-the-law-and-legalism-3/
Gradually, however, the word went beyond the Jews to the Gentiles. As more and more Gentiles came into the church, the question of their relation to the law became an issue. The church leaders now knew that God no longer showed partiality, but did this mean Gentile Christians could ignore the Mosaic law?
This issue came to a head when some men from Judea went out and told the Gentiles, “Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved” (Acts 15:1). This caused “no small dissension and disputation” (v. 2). Finally to settle this issue, Paul and Barnabas (two who had labored much among the Gentiles) were appointed to go to Jerusalem with others to confer with the other apostles and elders. A conference was called at Jerusalem to find God’s will on this matter.
One of the first to speak was Peter. He explained his earlier experience how that God “put no difference between us [the Jews] and them [the Gentiles], purifying their hearts by faith” (Acts 15:9). He continued, “Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, we shall be saved, even as they” (vv. 10, 11).
The Holy Spirit led the apostles to the conclusion that Gentiles need not keep the Mosaic law but should abstain from idolatry, immorality, things strangled, and blood (Acts 15:20, 28, 29). These decisions were not the result of man’s reasoning but involved revelation given to the Lord’s chosen apostles.
This conference did not settle the question for all. Some still sought to make Christians live in obedience to the Mosaic law. The Judaizers (those who insisted that Christians must keep the Mosiac law) kept this issue alive during the last part of the first-century, and many of the New Testament books were written to explain the relation of the Mosaic Law to the Christian faith. Among these books are Galatians, Romans, and Hebrews.
https://truediscipleship.com/early-christians-the-law-and-legalism-3/
To clarify the Gospel again for them, Paul wrote, “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified” (Gal. 2:16).
Stop trying to twist my words. I didn't say the apostles got pushed out. After about a century or two, the church got corrupted and certain, "leaders," wanted to push the Jews out because they blamed them for killing Jesus. It has only gotten worse since that time.
Well, you believe what you want, God gives us all the choice. Choose wisely. I suggest you do some reading and think for yourself and use some discernment, if you have any.
Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
Mat 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Mat 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Mat 13:15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
Mat 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
I guess it would depend on your definition of, "Jews." If you want to take a religious definition, okay, I am okay with that in general, but if you take the ethnic definition, then no, there ARE Jews in the church, descendants of Jacob to be precise.
That is basically just saying to treat people equally. You know, love thy neighbor as you love yourself.
Why do you clowns always quote the Talmud but basically ignore the Torah? Learn the source of the Talmud. Learn the difference between the two.
Not quite. The Talmud is a collection of RABBINICAL writings which tend to elaborate on the Torah. In other words, mans opinions on the Torah. Learn the source of rabbis, are they denoted in Leviticus? Does it say anything about creating a group of people called rabbis? Learn about the Babylonian captivity and what happened. Temple destroyed. No way to observe Mosaic law. What to do? Hey, the Babylonians have an interesting religion called Chaldean mysticism, lets play with that.
When Cyrus gave the Jews some cash and told them to go free, how many actually went as opposed to how many COULD have gone? Were some perfectly happy to stay in Babylon? Why? Did they get rich? Did they choose earthly riches as opposed to heavenly ones? Same old story. Separating the wheat from the chaff.
Combine an airplane pic with the red haired pubic mound pic thats on here all the time and call it, "bush pilot." KEK.