I couldn't convince my mom anon to avoid the vax. Best I could do was offer up a lot of research on the differences between the vax's, and leading questions about how high the survival rate was of Covid. In the end she went for the mRNA because she didn't want a standard vax based on fetal cells. Facepalm.
No because after thoroughly researching it, I could not prove that to be true. This was back around Christmas time. Nothing has shown so far that changes made in the cell nucleus actually propagate to other cells or thruout your body. They affect the local cells which fire off an 'e protein' that the antibodies attack. But so far as i know it doesn't get into your bone marrow and actually alter your base DNA.
Having said that, I still hate the idea. And it opens the door of acceptance in peoples' minds, very dangerous. AND, the patent considers the technology to be an 'operating system' which is some pretty scary sounding shit. My advice was for her to go for the standard human-cell vax, if she was determined to take a jab. She didn't even know that prevous vax's she has taken also used the human fetal cell strains. But knowing that, her conscience wouldnd't let her go with that option.
>https://investors.biontech.de/node/8746/html
From page 69 of the paper you linked:
"Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA. Unlike certain gene therapies that irreversibly alter cell DNA and may cause certain side effects, mRNA-based medicines are designed not to irreversibly change cell DNA. Side effects observed in other gene therapies, however, could negatively impact the perception of immunotherapies despite the differences in mechanism."
So they specifically state that it does not permanently alter DNA, but that it may need various different classifications depending on the countries it will be used in, because it is a brand new category of product. In other words, the FDA may classify it as gene therapy, but the EU may classify it as something else like a drug.
Interesting, because I'm the opposite. Never had any social media whatsoever, but am now in the process of going on the offensive. Starting multiple accounts on different platforms and try to spread the red pills.
We are definitly in the middle of a dual psy-op. Tempting just to say fuck it, but with the increased danger it feels like increased responsibility.
Good point. But to be fair, we don't have a counter point that proves they are altering genes either. I remain super suspicious, as I am about most things. But I also like to be able to back up claims, because the people I try to convince of things are relentless. They would dig this up in 5 minutes and show it to me. "See, says right here it doesn't alter DNA you conspiracy theorist."
Personally my view on it is, the Covid mRNA is harmless and designed to get us to let down our guard. Maybe the next one will be harmless too, so that people REALLY go for it in a big way. Maybe they even use it to fight cancer, or something really noble. But in the background they will be able to trigger something truly sinister any time they want. THAT is my real fear with it.
I remember when I first started waking up to all this stuff, found a non 501c3 church and had a pastor who was a prepper. One of the first things he did when moving to the community was go meet with the local sherriff to make sure he knew where the guy stood on 2nd Amendment. I'll never forget the foresight he had, because he was years ahead of me on it.
I get it anon, truly. Shady company, Bill Gates links, new technology, we've got no reason to trust them.
But when it comes down to us countering with a credible message, it looks kind of weak to claim the FDA classification of gene therapy. I'm hearing all the patriot channels with the same line, and no doubt next week the MSM will 'bebunk' it by reading what i quoted on page 69 of that report.
The spike protein is not new either. What is truly scandalous is that they picked this fucker out of a hat practically, it is the same spike protein found in all 6 of the other Covid strains. And remember that Sars Cov-2 was not even actually fucking SEQUENCED. Maybe the good news is people finally paying attention to vaccine side effects, even though these side effects sound as common as other vaccines.
Here is the root that blows away all faux arguments: "Covid 19" itself (not that we even have a full sequence) does not kill 99.x% of all the people it infects. So WHO THE FUCK cares about a vaccine at all, and WHY THE FUCK would one be rushed into production ahead of normal safety protocols? Obviously fucking insane, obviously not even a pandemic. Until that base fact can be communicated, we are going to look like idiots shouting about the dangers of the vax. They are still debunking HCQ as an effective treatment, almost a year later.
Its the ROOT of the narrative that is all backward. Sadly we have Trump to thank for making the Covid hysteria "official" when he started wearing the mask. Up until then the narrative could have gone either way it seems to me.
dose trips
Seriously where is the global postmaster guy when you need him. Thought he was kind of earth or something.
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Hero of the movement is a pillow guy. I'm still grappling with this.
FWIW my 70-something parents are finally red pilled. I think it was Epoch Times. But no doubt they would listen to a guy like Mike Lindell.
Myanmar taking us to school
>If you look into it, the whole medical system is an unscientific scam.
Truth. Its astonishing really. Polio, AIDS, they literally made shit up and killed tens (hundreds?) of thousands of people. Anon stopped putting faith in the medical establishment when exwife anon tried to learn and study holistic medicine. She realized how the entire med. establishment was crooked and tied up with big pharma. Once in a while I have met a doctor whose advice I would probably trust. There aren't many.
So between medical 'science' and climate 'science', we are living under the leash of unelected technocrats. That's why I moved to a poor pacific island :)
is this Scott McKay?? literally that's his line
Quick, give 'em ivermectin and take care of any Covid cases at the same time!
Yep yep
The Kary Mullis interviews are extremely enlightning. While explaining about PCR, he will get into tangents, like tens of thousands of viruses in your body that we haven't discovered. Discovering something new doesn't correlate it with death automatically….back to Koch's postulats. Covid is fail / fail / fail. HIV is a giant fail. It was Fauci himself who helped hit on the research / funding mechanism in the 80s by pumping up the AIDS scare. What a cocksucker.
I can buy Juan O Savin's argument that the military's hands were tied until the moment biden took the oath. Up until that second, it was a civilian matter. But one second later, they should have had a Marine security detail arrest him.