>>13439600 pb

> the rapture of the church

Hard to support that with the bible. Easy to support in the collective thinking of the church. Almost like the biblical story was so awful in its description of what would happen to humanity that the only way it could be sold to the masses is to tell them that they would be the only ones who did not have experience the devastation planned for the planet.

If the rapture is not true, do you still think the story told in Daniel, Mathew and Revelations is a great thing to put your collective thoughts and feelings towards bringing into existence? Seems to me like if more Christians prayed that what happened to Jonah happens to the KJB explanation of the end times, they would be closer to following Jesus's teaching than the current hope for the rest of humanity to suffer horribly.

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>>13439734

>Oh yes, hell is very real, and very forever.

>… and in case you're wondering: there's no in-betweens.

I take it you have personal experience to back up your belief.

>>13439654

>Have you read the Old Testament? It is full of examples. Have you read the New Testament. It also is full of examples.

And Christian history is full of examples of Christians being burned at the stake, sometimes by other professing Christians. Are you suggesting that Jesus was on the side of the catholic church and the Christians who were thrown to lions by the Romans or burned by the Catholic Church were not really Christians? Logically, you can not rely on Jesus to save you in this physical world.

>>13439748

>Satanic Gibberish Shill

i.e. anyone who disagrees with your particular reading of the bible. Careful, someone who is as dogmatic as you is going to call you a heretic who is most certainly under the influence of the devil. How dare you read the bible for yourself, that is only for priests and the pope, God's emissary on earth.

Some humility when it comes to spiritual things goes a long way towards not killing the wrong person.

>>13439744

>indepth study of this (amost 30 hours long

Salvation is simple but the truth about what is going to happen to you is very complicated.

>>13440284

>is it always a duality of Male and Female regardless of origin?

appears to be a bell curve for with a peak for biological sexes being separated like a pair of breasts on the male female continuum. the push for hermaphrodites imho is a fools errand trying to force a physical expression of something that is only possible in a spiritual dimension.