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anyone else notice that there are real lemon leaves on Jills dress?
Look at her neck
the leaf is real and hitting her skin/neck?
weird
Jill is a lemon?
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What does the expression a real lemon mean?
In the US, a "lemon" is a very poor specimen of something, something that just doesn't work. In some states we have an anti-lemon law that protects consumers from automobiles that just weren't fit for purchase. I think some use it to refer to people as well.
Why “lemon” for a faulty or defective item?
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What is the origin of the phrase "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade"?
In the above questions, "lemon" is used to mean a faulty or defective item. A typical use might be to describe a second hand car that, once bought, turns out to have serious faults, as a "lemon".
Why is the delicious fruit associated with faulty goods?
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perhaps via criminal slang sense of "a person who is a loser, a simpleton," which is perhaps from the notion of someone a sharper can "suck the juice out of."
A pool hall hustle was called a lemon game (1908);
while to hand someone a lemon was British slang (1906) for "to pass off a sub-standard article as a good one."
Or it simply may be a metaphor for something which "leaves a bad taste in one's mouth."
But none of these rings true for me, and words like "may be" and "perhaps" show a lack of confidence. Can anyone shed more light?
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In Br. Eng. "lemon" is almost exclusively reserved for a (recently-purchased) substandard car. If you recently bought something other than a car that turned out to be substandard, you'd have been sold a pup – FumbleFingers Jan 3 '12 at 17:21
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@FumbleFingers Lemons are mostly cars in the US, too. We don't do much trade in pups, though. – user13141 Jan 3 '12 at 17:39
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@onomatomaniak: Sold a pup relates to the piglet you thought you'd bought (sight unseen) that turned out to be a pup when you got home and opened the bag. Americans do have related usages - "pork barrel" (politics), for example. I don't know if you guys can buy a "pig in a poke" (poke meaning "bag"), but that's another one over this side of the pond. – FumbleFingers Jan 3 '12 at 17:51
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I think your confusion comes from thinking of a lemon as a "delicious fruit". If you think of it as a "sour fruit that tastes awful unless it's covered with sugar or some other flavoring", then the idea of calling a defective product a lemon makes perfect sense. Like, "I was expecting an orange, but instead I got a lemon." – Jay Jan 3 '12 at 18:00
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Evan Morris over at The Word Detective, answering a similar query, has some helpful musings.
He argues that despite all the good lemons have done, they've suffered from an image problem since the dawn of their cultivation—due primarily to their stinging acidity and tough skins.
He continues,
The word “lemon” comes to us from the Old French “limon,” which was derived from Arabic roots and served as a generic term for citrus fruit in general (which explains how the same root could also give us “lime”). The use of “lemon” to mean “disappointing result” or “something unwanted” is very old, reflecting the fact that, while useful in cooking, a lemon standing alone is just a lump of sourness with a tough skin to boot. In Shakespeare’s play Love’s Labours Lost (1598), for instance, one character proclaims, “The armipotent Mars, of lances the almighty, Gave Hector a gift …,” to which another puckishly suggests, “A lemon.”
And, clearly drawing from some of the OED citations mentioned by @Barrie, he concludes,
In the mid-19th century, “lemon” was used as a colloquial term for a person of a “tart” disposition, as well as, more significantly for our purposes, slang for a “sucker” or “loser,” a dim person easily taken advantage of. It has been suggested that this latter use stems from the idea that it is easy to “suck or squeeze the juice out of” such a person (“I don’t know why it is, rich men’s sons are always the worst lemons in creation,” P.G. Wodehouse, 1931). By 1909, “lemon” was also firmly established in
American slang as a term for “something worthless,” especially a broken or useless item fobbed off on an unsuspecting customer.
It’s likely that the current use of “lemon” to mean “something that doesn’t live up to its billing” or “a disappointing purchase” comes from a combination of “lemon” in the “sucker” sense (i.e., the buyer got “taken”) and the much older sense of “lemon” meaning “something undesirable.”
Also of note, I found occasional use of the phrase (at least as early as 1918),
"to give someone a lemon and pass it off as a nugget (of gold)." If this was the original saying, later shortened to "handing someone a lemon," then the implication of trickery is confirmed and the metaphorical use of lemon further explained.
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look a the real leaf(s) on dress??
the one at her neck is clearly not in the fabric dye???
weird
who does that???
It is like she is telling us she is a real lemon?
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Just like Melania clothes???
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what is Amy Carter up to these days??
Amy Carter
Amy Lynn Carter is the daughter of the thirty-ninth U.S. President Jimmy Carter and his first lady Rosalynn Carter. Carter entered the limelight as a child when she lived in the White House during the Carter presidency.
>2020 there is no information about her child or the identity of her second husband. She doesn’t have any social media profiles, and little to nothing is known about her everyday life. She also refuses to grant interviews. She currently lives in Atlanta,
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no information about her child
or the identity of her second husband
doesn’t have any social media profiles
nothing is known about her everyday life
lives in Atlanta
Amy Carter
how can she be re-married
and the internet NOT know who her husband is
or the "media" not know
who tries to uncover all details of Republicans
there has to be a marriage record with new husband
dig like the media on all things Trump would do?
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sabmyk
it is bullshit
and part of fake news
ask Newsweek
all to divide
https://www.newsweek.com/sabmyk-qanon-followers-new-messianic-mythology-1573971
Arapidly-growing disinformation network is attempting to position itself as a leading online movement by appealing to devotees of QAnon, the far-right cult.
"Sabmyk'' actively targets the group's followers as conspiracy theorists wrestle to define QAnon's future. It hopes to attract devotees of the conspiracy through social media accounts, many of which borrow from the QAnon terminology.
While some of these accounts were created on prominent sites, namely Facebook and Twitter, it is the messaging app Telegram where the network is experiencing most success.
Newsweek has tracked more than 100 Sabmyk channels since December 21, 2020—the made-up birthdate of "Sabmyk," a messianic figure which is supposedly tied to the Bible's Noah and the Atlantean sword of Shahnawaz.
The channels, on which harmful conspiracy theories are posted, have amassed a combined 1 million subscribers since then.
Channels named WWG1WGA (an acronym for the QAnon rallying "where we go one, we go all"), Q Donald Trump and Q Speaking are among the largest.
What is the Sabmyk network?
https://www.facebook.com/Sabmyk
Like QAnon, Sabmyk is a convoluted conspiracy theory that incorporates fantastical elements into its narrative.
At its core, the Sabmyk network promotes a messianic belief that the eponymous savior will wield a sword once owned by the "Orion Kings of Atlantis" and lead an "awakening" against an unspecified cabal of celebrities, scientists, bankers and company owners that it says are manipulating the general public.
Those behind the network also claim their messianic savior "awakened" on December 21, that it was prophesied by the Biblical figure Noah, and can be identified by specific marks on its body.
Gregory Davis, who recently profiled Sabmyk for the U.K.-based anti-racism organization Hope Not Hate, said the pseudo-religion began late last year.
He told Newsweek: "In December 2020 we start to see it [the Sabmyk network] move onto Telegram, that's when the word Sabmyk starts to appear, who is supposedly some sort of messianic figure which is tied in with other elements such as Noah's prophecy and the mythical "sword of Shahnawaz."
"But aside from the following of these channels, there has been, until January and February of this year, no evidence of this existing as anything other than the writings of a single person or organization on the internet. It is not something that has any backstory or history to it apart from the things that have been forged by this personal group."
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How Sabmyk targets QAnon followers
The network's strategy to grow is clear. It does so by appealing to QAnon believers, many of whom took to Telegram following moves by Facebook and other social media giants to ban disinformation.
Messages promoting mask skepticism, anti-vaccination conspiracies and the false assertion the recent 2020 Presidential Election was stolen from Donald Trump are shared between channels in order to attract QAnon and other far-right followers.
Attempts to connect Sabmyk to former President Trump, a central figure in the QAnon conspiracy, have been made, including a clip that splices together Trump saying the word "17," and a doctored image showing him with a Sabmyk pamphlet in his suit pocket. All were shared across dozens of Sabmyk accounts.
"It seems to be quite a calculated effort to seed this narrative into the QAnon community," Davis said. "Some of the channels are named after QAnon, others reference UFOs or chemtrails so they are working in other conspiracy theories that are not necessarily related to QAnon."
There are a huge range of channels, Davis said, that "share identical content" and sometimes more targeted messaging.
"There are two levels of deception to it," he added. "The names of the channels, the branding and the one or two unique posts that each one shares are tailored towards the outer identity stamping of the channel.
"The British Patriots Party channel has posts about the Mayor of London [Sadiq Khan] and shares uploads that appear towards its supposed purpose. But, because it's sharing from all of the other channels, the majority of which are QAnon, the overwhelming common content on the channel is of American QAnon issues."
What next?
While the Sabmyk network originally focused more on QAnon and conservative branding and pushed content in English (and occasionally German), Newsweek has found new channels that post in Korean, Japanese and Italian.
These channels do not attempt to hide Sabmyk's XX branding and forward existing Sabmyk content from others in an apparent attempt to build a global following.
The Anti-Defamation League has tracked conversations in QAnon groups that discuss the Sabmyk conspiracy as its remaining followers look to latch onto any apparent new sign to justify their debunked world-view.
ADL investigative researcher Amy Landiorio reports that online users have been trying to unpack the Sabmyk conspiracy in QAnon spaces.
She told Newsweek: "The idea that another conspiracy, which at its most basic is an alternative theory intended to cast doubt on reality, has made its way into QAnon circles is not surprising."
The Sabmyk network is only one of several groups on Telegram who are peddling their ideology into QAnon-dominant pages, with several appealing to the anti-Semitic messages shared by QAnon followers.
"When QAnon adherents started to recalibrate their conspiracy in a new administration, online extremists, who are known opportunists, attempted to inject their ideological narratives into QAnon spaces," Landiorio continued.
"White supremacists and other extremists on Telegram saw an opportunity to use disinformation and shared grievances like those displayed during the election and insurrection to make elements of their ideology palatable."
Newsweek has contacted Telegram, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram for comment.
Never trust Newsweek
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