Bless this bread and bless our fam.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KPAQes61fSo
>Not sure, but I think that may be a crane operating (behind the building facing the cam) at St Thomas's.
Welp, that crane seems missing any red caution lights, unless those horizontal type cranes are not required to have them. Should have a red light at its uppermost though, shouldn't it? Can't say at this point. Not enuf evidence.
We may be without any Moon in 24 LONDON. A pity. I had hoped to make some very rough calculations on how long after LISAMI6's Moon this new picture appeared to take place. The vid you just posted shows a much smaller building crane toward the back of St. Thomas and facing in a different direction(for new eyes). I must say that even if there is a streak of clouds, the small crane, which could have been extended, could still be the source of light.
We may yet get a pic that could change our current doubts.
Still open as to the other possible Moon over (what building is that?)
Still think 24LONDON is was taken AFTER LISAMI6 though, due to her appearing dark in spite of the "painting" extra exposure technique.
If there was a Moon over ST THOMAS, I was going to add 40 minites. If there was a Moon over that building with a crane (w/ red light), I was going to add about 80 minutes to when LISAMI6 was captured. The basic principle I was using is that they are roughly 10 degrees apart from each other. Moon takes 4 minutes to travel 1 degree. Therefore, they are 40 minutes apart. In theory. If we only had a Moon.
In case anyone is curious about those moon calcs: (still using 20MAR2014)
ROT1= 151.5(say 150) at 12:47am
ST THOM=160 degrees @ 1:27am
OTHER BLDG CRANE. 170 = 2:07am
Thanks very much Boat. Unless someone can adjust the picture/resolution on the new 24LONDON pic to show a Moon over either of the two buildings, then it is a wasted effort. One building was St. Thomas Hospital, the other I don't know it's name.
If those are not moons, the exercise is meaningless. Anyone want to try to adjust the picture resolution and light? May be a prob with those "painted" photos that have already played with the light effects.
So the 16th is confirmed. Sorry I could not see what anon was looking for and missed it in that ST.PAT vid. In the orange sign, I can just make out the shape of the sign's graphic in the vid and other capture.
The shroud marker I think we should arrow to earlier than 13APR, but even still removes all April as far as a lunar match for
ROT1 and EMB pics.
I can explain why April and even the week preceding the week of the 16th of MAR.
Am reposting a lunar graphic which is key in a discussion about why some dates can be eliminated from consideration.
While the Moon's blurriness in ROT1 prevents a visual confirmation that a clear picture would provide, lets try observing how that blurry Moon is behaving.
Moar in next posts.
From the 1st of April to the 7th, we start with a "waxing" (following the Sun) thumbnail moon growing to a 1st Quarter moon. During the dates above, the Moons would have been close to the Sun, following it by an hour to 3 hours across the sky.
From the 8th of April to the 15th: The Moon would begin by following the Sun by 6 hours as a 1s quarter Moon, then increasing to a Waxing Gibbous which follows the Sun by about 9 hours. A Waxing Gibbous would rise about 3pm and be in that area of ROT1 about 6pm as the Sun is setting. I think at that time we might see the lights of the TATTS and HISP coming on and witness the beginning of the dinner service until closing. The Moon continues increasing from a waxing gibbous (9 hrs behind Sun) until it becomes a Full Moon that is roughly 12 hours behind the Sun. So it is rising as the Sun sets. It would rise about 6pm and appear in position in our ROT1 pic around
9ish. Again, at a time the dinner service on TATTS and HISP would be in full swing.
It might reach a point of directly overhead by midnight.
Then what follows from APR17 thru 22 are the best estimates for a match. The first of these, in the Waning Gibbous are favored as the Waning Gibbous rise about 9ish and would appear in position of the ROT1 pic from 11:20pm to 12:47pm. Think after business hours of the restaurant ships.
But I needn't have included that week because of the Westminster shrouding bookend, I think before 13APR.
Will do a MARCH 2014 discussion next.
Not sure how seriously the owners of the TATTS took their maritime responsibilities regarding flying of the flag but found that in a couple of photos a flag is flying from the forward flagstaff. The flags are not seen in the Q pics. Am not expert on this but don't they usually haul down the flag at dusk?
This may not mean anything but it appears in some pics and not in others. Could be a way of telling pics apart.
I want to thank the anon who posted this last pic in the last bread.
>>13652846 lb
Def identifies a crane with perhaps its cab light on behind St. Thomas.
But can an anon try working with the light and resolution of that other crane? Beyond this anon's ability. We have one crane IDEN. Am not fully convinced of the one with the red light yet.
Anon, mind the flag on the flagpole in SISter. Can't quite make that flag out. Or is it a dark pennant? Or a longer flag? My mind may be playing tricks.
Tyvm. Noice for reference pics if comparing pics of TATTS with what looks like a burgee?
Sorry for butting into the wrong conversation, anons. The flag on the flagpole detail is irrelevant to your shroud discussion.
So LISA, 24LONDON and SISter pre-date 16MAR2014 (St.Pats vid)? All 3 show preparatory scaffolding on SE tower in advance of that shrouding seen on 16MAR.
LISA and 24LONDON = same evening
SISter = an evening just before or after LISA and 24LONDON.
The work effort clearly begun prep on the next tower (SE) before finishing the small tower(North-behind Big Ben) so as not to waste any time. A double-check of lunar matches for ROT1 moon for early March yields daytime moons finally progressing to a Full moon on 16MAR2014. But full moons only rise at sunset. So you know all those pre-St. PAT dates in MAR2014 are bad.
The 9MAR photo showing both the SE tower and small North tower shrouding pointing us to an earlier time?
That "not after" 2MAR First Aid sign marker for the CH series of pics comes to mind.
So, Is it looking like a time frame between 6FEB, when only the small North tower was shrouded until the appearance of the other shroud on SE tower on 9MAR then?
Correction: (on item 2) s/b "capturing a view of partially constructed SOUTH EAST tower shroud with some base scaffolding still showing on it."
Thanks, Anon. Glad some folks are getting the word out.
Found this just a while ago. Year is not stated, only that it's Valentines Day and tou can make out that SMALL NORTH TOWER shroud. So, 14FEB2014?
>reviewed our dig on Piccadilly but thinking the interval was based on LG G2 advertisment and the release/availability of that product.
I think an anon found the small Christmas tree decorations in the window boxes at Cool Brittania which would have only been employed during the holiday season. Plus you have the ticket kiosk marker.
NOTABLE
Anon find a pic match for LISAMI6 that is dated 25DEC2013. i
We have a new sister pic! I was reading Anon's first post of that image and was just going to post that!
I am reminded of Q's post- "For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son. "
You should choose a name for this new pic for future reference. LONDON25? LONDON1225?
Great find, Anon!
Anon finds sidewalk sign in a pic dated 23DEC2013 that matches the sign seen in ROT1
Fantastic find, Anon! We know this has been a bedeviling detail thus far not found in open source pics. Congratulations, Anon.
"It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas…"
Anon, I received this response from BO over at QRB:
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Anon, YOU deserve to see this. YOU have "eyes on" from a BO.
I find the locations of the signs identical, as well as the overall shape of the sign's lettering, taken as a kind of fuzzy graphic. Identical.
Was just going to post a lunar calendar. Now I ask what kind of faggots are doing their faggotry on Christmas Day(evening)?
Perhaps they needed to do their business during a "Winter break"? Who takes "Winter breaks"? Pics may be related. ;-)
I look at LONDON2847.
P.S. Remember those LAST QUARTER moons I mentioned which don't even rise until midnightish?
Also, on Christmas Day (evening) one would expect the MILLBANK building lights to remain relatively unchanged from early to late due to most workers being off that day, to include night cleanup crews.
Just found this yesterday and hadn't found the right time or place to post it. It could explain some shrouds appearing to have been partially taken down, to then return to being up. High winds JAN/FEB 2014
I am not gud at sharing pdf links. I tried something different to make it work. Hope it works.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binaries/content/assets/metofficegovuk/pdf/weather/learn-about/uk-past-events/interesting/2014/winter-storms-january-to-february-2014—met-office.pdf