Tyvm.
Wow. So close to the MILLBANK LISA building lights configuration(GOOD), and the SE tower seems to have some scaffolding(GOOD) but no shrouding(GOOD). So LONDON EYE was obviously running to get this Christmas picture. Okay,.
Really good find. Gotta save this picture. It is every bit as important as the stock photo on 25DEC and 24LONDON.
To me the markers in these pictures we are finding are pointing toward Christmas Day (evening)!for EMB pics. imho
Okay, this is just an exercise. I brought up LONDON as the base location for a night sky simulation on TimeandDate. I used Christmas Day and am facing Northwest. How can you tell the brightest star? Watch which one appears first at twilight? Good guess.
I get VEGA popping out at twilight in the Norrhwest. See caps. It is the most prominent star, in that direction, and from twilight until 10pm closing. We are just thinking out loud here. Spitballing. But anons can see what is being contemplated.
My feel for the WinterWonderland timing is that it is in the early part of the evening . Well duh, right? If you know the venue will be closing at 10, what time would you arrive? Think for yourself. Just there for a secret hand-off of secret stuff? Or maybe combine a little fun since you are here in London?
As for the ROT1 pic, if we follow the open source markers: Millbank, SE tower scaffolds, North tower shroud, it seems pretty close to Christmas Day. But what astronomy sites tell us about when the Moon would be seen in London on Dec.25, 2013 is that the ROT1/EMB set represents a very late portion of the evening, as the Moon rises at 12:44am.
Welp, unfortunately can't rely on the vid cap as being on LE on Christmas Day because the vid poster says the vid is from a week's travel in London. A good week marker though. Building lights are similar to LISA's but not as close as those in stock photo on 25DEC. And can't prove taken on date for any of the locations portrayed in the vid.
Sounds good.
Anon, I was only toying with the idea that the WW series could have occurred on the same night as EMB, which I know would be speculation, those two could occur on the same evening. Just thinking out loud.
Am really not convinced just yet about the 25DEC2013 stock photo being the date of EMB. But we should take a moment and review the bookends of the diff series. A lot of bookmarks have changed and we should compare our thinking and no doubt find consensus. Let's discuss those digs whose bookends have changed. Then we agree how so. Open to suggestions.
>Anon, would that be 12.44AM in the early morn of 24, 25, or 26 DEC 2013?
To answer that: I used TimeAndDate night sky sim, I used the azimuth of 151.5 which represents a bearing from Hungerford Bridge to where the Moon was in ROT1.
Had assumed one could not get together a group of that many rascals in one place who would abandon their families on Christmas Eve but will post it and Christmas Day (evening) for reference.
See caps.
Yes, for the evening of 24DEC2013 the Moon reached its position as in ROT1 at 4:01am the next day.
And for the evening of 25DEC2013 the Moon reached its ROT1 position at 4:41am the next day.
>Re WW opening week.
>21 NOV THURSDAY = VIP PREVIEW
>22 NOV FRIDAY = PUBLIC OPENNING
>26 NOV TUESDAY = GETTY PHOTO
>23 DEC MONDAY = CLOSED FOR STORM
>25 DEC WEDNESDAY = CLOSED CHRISTMAS
>5 JAN SUNDAY = END OF SEASON, CLOSED
WW and LONDONEYE DATES:
WW 23DEC2014 storm closure
LondonEye 23DEC2014 ????also????
WW 24DEC2014 OPEN
LondonEye 24DEC2014 OPEN
WW 25DEC2014 CLOSED
LondonEye 25DEC2014 CLOSED
So any "Christmas" pics taken from LONDONEYE or which show movement of LONDONEYE , or which show WW amusement park are most definitely NOT taken on CHRISTMAS DAY.
Here is a quite fun TIDE marker I discovered. Now don't go off and deep dive on this. Just keep it in mind when looking at dock pics of TATTS.
Look at the little dinghy tethered to the supply barge alongside TATTS.
It has been seen facing both ways on its tether. You should see the bow of the dinghy when tide is incoming, and the stern of the dinghy when tide is outgoing.
Observe the water seeming more calm in some pics, and seeming choppy in others.
My obs on watching timelapse vids and comments on how fast the tides "roll in", is that the water appears more choppy on incoming tides and calm when outgoing.
Btw, does the dinghy in LISA look like we are seeing its bow? Incoming?
>at best I would say that would potentially point to the Christmas break.
I like the extra day and that could give us more car traffic.
Am going to back this up a bit and ask anons just who it is we think are having an "exchange" here. IF we contemplate that some out-of-towners have interrupted their holiday break with their families, flying off on a red-eye after spending Christmas Eve or Christmas morning with the fam, then that may help us to understand the circumstances. Also bear in mind, if these scenes did occur during the holidays, the event was deemed of a sufficient urgency to get this many people away from home on a holiday or right after.
Now be patient and (Gimme) a little patience as I indulge. Is this the exchange that (Shelter) very senior members. Now what senior member of govt. would need shelter? Did someone get offered shelter from something, in exchange for helping the persons to get something going. What did they have to offer in the proposed exchange? Who can offer and provide shelter?
If the events happened before Christmas, then our out-of-towners would be able to get back home to be with their families by what, Christmas Eve or Day? But if the pics were after Christmas, then the out of towners could break away from their families after Christmas Eve, Christmas morning?