Anonymous ID: d2962b May 23, 2021, 8:05 p.m. No.13739454   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9485 >>9553

>>13739381

 

your an idiot vatican shill…

 

outside the church doesn't specifically mean the catholic church

 

but seeing as to how you are arguing against the catechism of the roman catholic church, which is basic church teaching… I know you are a shill and complete idiot

 

baptism by blood, desire, and water… regardless of the church, and in the end it is up to God. God is not bound by the sacraments of His church.

 

https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P3M.HTM

Anonymous ID: d2962b May 23, 2021, 8:29 p.m. No.13739621   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9653

>>13739485

 

vatican shill… here is how I know you are not catholic and have now clue about catholicism

 

the word dunce is only used by protestants who did not like his theology, stems from profaning the name of a franciscan theologian, John Duns Scotus

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duns_Scotus

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2017/01/origin-word-dunce/

 

catholics don't use the word dunce

Anonymous ID: d2962b May 23, 2021, 8:34 p.m. No.13739651   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9656

>>13739485

also what is you're point with the quote you gave me in you're post vatican shill?

 

nothing here says the Catholic church specifically which was my point. Are you trying to confirm my point? Idiot…

Anonymous ID: d2962b May 23, 2021, 8:46 p.m. No.13739723   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9735 >>9736 >>9810

>>13739656

are you retarded vatican muh joo shill

 

all "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" means is outside the church there is no salvation… it does not specifically say outside the catholic church, which is what you are trying to imply.

 

Again baptism by blood, water and desire is all you need, and in the end it is up to God. God is not bound by the sacraments.

 

CCC 1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation.1 He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them.2 Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.3 The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are “reborn of water and the Spirit.”God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.

 

 

http://www.catholic-catechism.com/ccc_1257.htm

Anonymous ID: d2962b May 23, 2021, 8:57 p.m. No.13739789   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>13739735

 

kek… muh joo shill, you are very retarded. The church is the mystical body of Christ. It doesn't matter what church you belong to, you just need to be baptised. Catholic church recognizes all baptisms using water.

 

I helped prep catholic converts for years.

 

https://www.answers.com/Q/Does_the_Catholic_Church_recognize_baptism_in_other_Christian_Churches