Baker,, on watch? General has no bread.
For anons digging through pics and vids of London.
https://youtu.be/Zx06XNfDvk0
Re the RED BUS pic, I think you mentioned that schools had probly just let out. And so we have mothers possibly picking up their kids from school, not much evidence of holiday shopping. I can make out one bag that seems opaque, semi-transparent, nothing fancy like holiday-themed bags.
Am thinking RED BUS is midday or early afternoon. Sky is cloudy but brightly lit. One faint shadow can be seen directly below a child's very long stride while trying to keep up with mum. The shadow is not sharp as on a sunny day, but blurred, do I lean to cloudy, early afternoon. This would seem to point to this scene habbening before or after the schools' Winter break.
Anon, how does that fit in with the bus stop sign that was changed in December of 2013? We can't go very far into December before we would see evidence of disruption due to the complete refurbishment of Communications House, right?
(Re-posting this pic with sauce for reference.) This picture, taken on 22DEC2013 of the BAZALGETTE MEMORIAL, is currently the ONLY picture anyone has been able to find which matches the SIDEWALK SIGNBOARD marker seen in ROT1.
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3816141
No. B was a b/v who abused his access to the site by posting on Q's board and got banned for posting there. Seems simple enough.
Re-posting the links for the 4 Getty pics "posted" Christmas Day 2013 which show the MILLBANK tower lights in a pattern which matches the building lights of the Millbank Bldg seen in Q's Trafcam, Lisa and EMB pics. These pics are currently our best evidence that the Q EMB pics are taken on Christmas Day (+/- 1 day).
LONDON25D:
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos/london-eye-christmas-2013?events=455200669&family=editorial&phrase=london%20eye%20christmas%202013
LONDON25A:
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-sun-sets-across-westminster-and-the-london-eye-on-christmas-day-picture-id459313293?s=2048x2048
LONDON25B:
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-sun-sets-across-westminster-and-the-london-eye-on-christmas-day-picture-id459313291?s=2048x2048
LONDON25C:
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-sun-sets-across-westminster-and-the-london-eye-on-christmas-day-picture-id459313295?s=2048x2048
I think last bread someone posted a cap from the WayBack of a restaurant that had dining packages for DEC 24, 25, 26. Even mentioned they have a private movie theatre up there. This may cause those upper floors to have a 'regular' light pattern. But we still have the rest of the building to work with, and that has been enough, imho to zero in on D25 (+/- 1). Now we just need to tighten the timeframe.
Btw, the Canadian's vids are like a trip to the dentist but a daily goldmine of weather conditions. There is one that allegedly caught fireworks on Christmas Eve from a high building(which is out of the norm for his locales). But I was interested in if he mislabeled the vid or not, or if they did have fireworks on Christmas Eve. Try watching some of his videos for weather. But at the same, time think of our London scenes and know they would be experiencing the same weather. He is there in London the whole timeframe we are looking at.
Can anons figure out which part of London this video is capturing?
It is supposed to be Christmas Eve somewhere in London with fireworks.
So far didn't find anything re fireworks that evening.
https://youtu.be/MN4HGq9dT88
Tyvm, Anon. That would make sense as he's from Canada. I thought he made a comment, can't recall the vid, but he said he made a mistake like that. Probly in a subsequent vid.
>>bus stop sign that was changed
>Could have been changed before construction start, but I think DEC 2013 is a reasonable narrowing of the time interval.
How many times in that time interval would all bus traffic stop due to a holiday? Perhaps private hires could legally offer a "routes". Could they take over a city route for a day? Perhaps a look at Christmas Day would answer my question.
>Another thought - the Piccadilly Circus pics and the RED BUS pic were dropped by Q in a series. Other than that commonality, is there any indication that the two scenes were closely connected in chronology and/or in sequence?
Could be in between the date of the approval for the sign change until we think the sign change was. Let me ask, was there any substantive change in the sign's rules which a pending construction disruption might necessitate?
>I think, the camera was on the other side of the pane of glass in KFC shopfront,
I agree. Look at the young man in dark clothes with cellular in hand. Look at his legs. The bottom of his right leg should be extending down or trailing behind. I think there is a window sill or sign in the window that is cutting off his leg.
I am not sure now as to who is the owner of that appendage. I now look at where dark clothes guy is directly in front of the woman with shopping bag and child with two possibilities: 1) the woman is wearing a dark hijab down to her shoes, and we are seeing her foot on the sidewalk, and the young fellow is standing still with legs together (no sign in the window), or 2) as stated earlier, dark clothes fellow has one leg cut off at the bottom of picture by (a sign? or that lettering in the window.
Thoughts on woman with hijab and that being her foot?
I see it now as the hijab woman's left leg and we see the hem of her dress. Her right foot is behind her shopping bag. I no longer think there is a sign cutting off the young guy's leg.
>I think, also, another sighting of "Roger" the guy with the red hat, potentially also in the red bus pic by the bus driver. Not saying its the WW guy, but we do seem to have a theme going.
See pics related.
Both brunette women seem to have white or light coloured sleeve cuffs. Both are wearing brown purses slung to their hips. Both are wearing short dresses with black leggings and boots under a fitted, thigh-length, black jacket with hood.
If that vidcap narrows our Piccadilly Circus timeframe to nor before December 5, 2013, then that is NOTABLE.
Perhaps unrelated,!but were there any Christmas street decorations on either Wardour or Whitcomb adjacent to Coventry?
Also, not entirely sure the Coventry street overhead decorations existed close enough to the KFC in which they might be seen over the red bus or reflected on its surface.
They look like they might have been strung on the far side of that Cafe de Paris in my estimation. What think?
Sauce that please, Anon, if it should be a NOTABLE.
UK BAKER, by? QRG ran out of bread.
Okay, if you had a Halloween costume contest and people could dress up like people in the London pics, who would look more like the woman in WW? Lisa Page or the woman photo bombing the RED BUS pic? She has absolutely NO business being in that surveillance photo right? I mean she is way off on the periphery of the picture. Oh wait, anon was saying the top of a red knit cap way over to the edge of the pic can be considered as the intended target of the photo. So not bad photography? Perhaps, using other people's phones' cameras to gather pictures in the vicinity of the target's phone?
And now we have two people, in the red bus pic, with costume elements similar to the couple in WW. Bright red hat- could be a coincidence all by itself. But add a woman 5-6 feet ahead of the guy, and she is dressed just like the woman at WW, who is seen with a guy sporting a bright red cap. Bigger coincidence. And the woman in RED BUS pic even looks more like WW woman than Lisa Page.
Imho, I think we might have a link for RED BUS to WW.
Pic is only enlarged, with no image adjustments, and the woman appears to have a shoulder slung handbag, worn at the hips, brown with light accent decoration.
Outstanding werk, Anon. After all this time, was it there in front of us? So, it was no accident Q posted just 2 pics: the RED BUS with the WW(handbag pic) in post #1405?
Anons recall how they can use other people's phones that are within reach of the target's own phone to maybe get a glimpse of a person? That would explain targets being seen on the periphery in SOME pics.
Thanks, Anon. Good graphic.
The Canadian's NYE vids on Coventry are very informative.
https://youtu.be/Pq_U_uaqQgk
Looks like the very last overhead decoration was strung from above the casino to above the shop (with yellow signage) next door to the money exchange. They are very high up. Am doubtful it could be seen in RED BUS.
See caps from vid posted.
I think this is the very last run of the suspended lights. From the casino to the shop next door to money exchange.
Attachment point is visible. Good find on that btw.
>Based on these images, there are two strings of overhead decoration that run directly over the bust stand.
On the 2018 JAN SV, but not on NYE 2014. They did not have that second string of lights in 2013. Maybe they botched the job by starting on the other end of Coventry and wound up short on attachment points. Kind of like starting the buttons on your shirt at the wrong button and you realise your error at the end. One of those decorations appears to consist of a "star" with 2 winglike trails. My theory is they started on the wrong attachment on the other end and came up short when they got to Whitcomb.
>>13876652 (me)
To explain the decorations on Coventry-
Each "shooting star" decoration consists of one star with two tails. Each decoration would appear like a V-shape from above, and require (3) attachment points. In the 2013 NYE vid, because they ended the last decoration above the yellow banner shop, they would only have two more attachment points remaining. Not enough for another "shooting star" decoration needing 3 attachment points. So, they only used one support wire from that attachment (in the 2013 RED BUS pic.)
The 2018 has those additional wires, prolly because they got it right that year.
Anon, if I might. I do agree: 1) that the snowflake star thing is somewhere over the casino (but my placement over the entrance may be different) and 2) the other attachment point between the money exchange and the souvenir store. I see the third attachment as being on the far end of the building above the last storefront.
See what you think.
Excellent werk on that blue policeman's box. They seem modular. In the NYE vid, looks like only one box. In the other cap, I see 2 units together.
Very gud digging. Am trying to keep up.
One thought on the decorations. Up bresd, anon showed a pic of just the wires with no decorations. If that pic was taken after the light decorations were removed, it implies that just taking down the decorations is a separate job in itself. Conversely, the initial suspension of the cables over the street should be considered to have occurred on a separate day, prior to the hanging of the decorations. So I think of it as 4 operations: Wires up, Attach decorations to wires, Remove decorations, then remove wires.
The decoration attachment devices are genius with only 2 bolts to affix them, and then just a matter of tensioning the wires. I recall anons' commenting on some wires looking less taut. Could removing the decorations reduce the tension on some wires?
I must admit, I am still partial to Christmas Day because of the transportation thing, and it may still be that the decorations are just out of frame in the Red Bus pic.
But really gud digging, anons.
Not a worry, BakerAnon. Not your fault if QRG ran out. I happened to be in the catalog and noticed they had just run out.
Btw, hope you don't mind. I shared your Carbis Bay sign pic in General and someone from qrb grabbed it and acknowledging the UK bread. Bunker is like a reading room for Q. Very comfy, no bs.
Noice digs. Unrelated, but you might be interested to know- the red lights seen in ROT1, and previously thought to be from the red Royal Pod are very likely red lights from two building cranes as evidenced by another look at the LONDON24 pic found in the following vid:
https://youtu.be/eDzV7cMRvHM
pics provided. No need to find Christmas Eve or Christmas Day or Boxing Day pics which match for red lights from the Royal pod. You won't find them. Another marker within ROT1.
After closer review of the decorations and the wires that support them, I see no attachment points for the decorations being attached to the suspension wires. I am suggesting that the support wires may be incorporated into the decorations. Unless anons can show just bare wires. I looked up bread and could not find just the wires. I note that the pic of a modern tour bus underneath Coventry decorations is no more capable of showing a reflection of decorations than the red bus was.
>Not understanding. The cables support the decorations. There are tension cables that criss-cross the decorations. There are anchor points on which the fixings are attatched. And anchor points apart from those.
Am fully on-board digging for a reflection marker. But I will try again to explain my point. I am asserting that I can't see evidence yet that the support wires are hung separately. What I am seeing in the various vidcaps and pics is that the support wires are INCORPORATED into the decorations.
I believe the decorations are HUNG as one SELF-SUPPORTING decorative unit. To say it in another way, I believe that if you are seeing the attachment point/FIXING, then it means the decorations are up.
Am I equally frustrated by the lack of ease in seeing the decorations reflected? Hell yes.
In fact, the entire f'g upper roof edge design on the Routemaster ought to be submitted to the MoD for possible use in stealth designs to combat images reflecting back toward the viewer.
My bias should be known. I am rooting for the time period when that old bus either could or should be found at that bus stand.
Am looking at the rearmost RML window reflection. Am I getting the proper window escutcheons? Looks like it should be a 4-pane window. Problem is, one of the horizontal escutcheons should stop and stay within the window frame but it does't. The "line" seems to continue beyond where we should expect it to end. A decoration wire? And a circular shape in the corner of the window looks interesting. Like the end on one of those 6-point snowflake/stars.
Do I have the correct window?
>Yellow jacket or backpack worn by someone at corner - but looks large for that.
It depends on if you think those red framework things are the inside of the cab or not. If that is the doorframe, then it looks like the object is inside and could may be the driver? Maybe that is why his jacket seems large? IDK
Anon, are those fixings/attachments a local phenomenon? Can a manufacturer be found? When I look at a close-up pic of the "fixing", Could it be more flexible than it appears in pics? Is it possible the fixing is made of chain and wrapped or clad in a vinyl, like a bicycle chain is wrapped in heavy vinyl? You may have already guessed why I would ask that question.
I goes to how the fixing will appear under tension vs. how it might appear without anything attached to it.
Anon, may I ask if this picture has an exact "taken on" date? It seems to show an incomplete phase of decoration installation?
One marker which may help is the snow globe at Eros statue. Compare with the Canadian vid and other pics of Coventry Street for Christmas 2013.
Let's compare the installation date of SNOW GLOBE with an incomplete installation of COVENTRY decorations.
Just noticed another sheet of decorations, but it is unlighted. An indication of werk in progress? or a technical glitch affecting ALL the other COVENTRY lights but the 2 decorations near RED BUS?
Can anons make out more unlighted decorations on Coventry? Can we use these 2 markers?
Why didn't I see that SNOW GLOBE sooner? So that pic shows incomplete decorations, or an almost complete malfunction of the decoration, except for 2 complete decorations.
Of course, Anon. Got a bit excited there. Observe an unlighted sheet near the Prince of Wales Theatre.
>I think there is another sheet just out of camera frame, above and to the left, which runs perendicular to the street and connects between the anchor point over KFC
Fren, imho Sheet A is that last sheet. it stretches from where the snowflake is above and right of the Cafe de Paris. The other sheet stretches toward the Prince of Wales.
Missed that. Thanks. Different snowflake decorations on different years.
Sorry to insist, and you might not have posted that pic of "incomplete" decorations from 2013, but may I please ask again, what is the date of that pic (or cap). Seems too steady of a shot for our Canadian. A "broken clock" shot perhaps. Might have accidentally got the camera steady. ;-)
TYVM, Anon.
The from those pics, there appears that triangular shape where the cab and front windscreen meet. But it seems to be in the wrong place in the RED BUS pic because it would seem to make the hood too short in the RB. A different cab/hood design? That yellow object in that place seems to be outside the cab though. Interdasting.
Were there any models in which the RML cab might be a little set back and its windscreen not flush with the upper carriage? Sorry if dumb question. I was my impression there were/are quite a few models.
Sorry, the anon posted a link, but the page only said it was taken "December 2013". Unfortunately, the posted pic does have the above date printed over the pic. A Tineye search got no hits.
Do we know the exact date the SNOW GLOBE went up? I may be that the Coventry decorations went up after the SG. If we had a date for SG going up then we could say the Coventry decorations occurred NOT BEFORE that date. In other words, it could point toward the possibility that the RB "fixing" for decorations occurred after the SG went up in Piccadilly.
Thanks to the anon who posted that pic:
http://www.lightgb.myfreeola.com/xmas/xmas/london/coventrystreet/coventrystreetchristmaslights.htm
I found a Ytube vid published on 19NOV2013 showing the SNOW GLOBE operating.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0_AbponQxOk
It's our pleasure, I'm sure. Thank you for your kind words.
Dats some splendid werk there, Anon! Thanks very much. 22DEC2013 is very intriguing as it was the day before the severe storm that destroyed the SNOW GLOBE on 23DEC2013. So, we have a picture showing partially operating street decorations on Coventry Street when we know they should be installed. I might have hoped for just a little bit sooner of a date, thinking the pic caught a time when the decorations were not completely installed, but the facts are what they are. i can't imagine the decorations not being completely installed by 22DEC2013.
Thank you again, Anon.
Will need to think this over. Maybe the lights were affected by a smaller preceding storm and were partially shorted out. IDK
An interesting dig, this.
Pic not related. Just a nice pic.
>What are the daylight hours that would match RED BUS pic during DEC 2013?
Roughly 8am-ish sunrises; sunsets around 4pm-ish. Shortest days of the year.
Anon is welcome anytime. Posting the Sun's bearings for Christmas Day. An arbitrary choice, but you won't find much difference that week. Look who has the Sun in their faces.
Would this be a good time for a team huddle? Anon was doing some open field running a ways back and team mates could catch up? Not to slow anon down. Run ahead if you have an open field. Just leave breadcrumbs so we can follow your path.
Do you have a wishlist in this dig?
btw, SOME of the ground is slightly wet in the background in that photo. Some areas were perhaps more sheltered by restaurant bars etc?
Was banned for a bread or two for out of control. spamming, 200+ posts per bread. He is on a short leash now and remains only by the clemency of our Baker. It's on JW's radar. My understanding is we can just say the word and he's gone.
Just my humble opinion, but I lean toward it being after noon. Any time after noon. School out. The people facing down Coventry toward PS seem to have a diffused sunlight in their faces. Not bright but an "overcast" sun that is diffused, like the shadow on the pavement beneath the young child. It's interesting that not many people, perhaps none of the people in our pics, wear sunglasses. I will even say that you can probably shave some time off the latter afternoon as the sun sets. See orig. post cap with sun rise/set times.
Co-baker, I never said that that was a funny meme you posted. Makes me smile every time I see it. >>13829068
Thanks. Saved that.
==Notable= A second look at the vid cap/pic we call 24LONDON shows the source of the two red lights "on" London Eye in ROT1 are in fact red safety lights from construction cranes behind LE and not special red lights on the Royal Pod on LE.
I also found another source from a Ytube vid which was "published" 23NOV2013 and which shows only one of the construction crane red lights behind LE but still proves the source of the lights.
https://youtu.be/zNaA22SvLjc
The vid also has good shots of al of the Thames landmarks we have discussed- TATTS, RAF memorial, Westminster shrouds, includingd the South Bank Christmas Market/Village. . No Coventry caps however.
You have a good eye for detail, Anon. Am not the expert here on RMLs but posting this pic of a steering column going straight to the floor.
Anon, I realise there are rivet joints above each window jam but there may be a flaw on RB we can use to ID her. Not sure if these two aberrational joints are just the bus showing her age and settling of her sheet metal. Or, it could be a certain reflection we are looking for. Compare the two I've circled and compare those joints with the other roof joints. The others follow the line of the roof over the roof edge in a curve and direction that is expected. The two circled joints seem to point this way and that. If it's a defect caused by age and settling, then fine, we can use that(unless some subsequent bodywork corrected the flaws). If it's not a flaw, then it's a reflection distortion. What do anons think?
Something to def keep a look out for. WHAT FOLLOWS IS ALL ANON SPECULATION AND THEORY. Am currently looking into the other possibility of those being shadows cast as opposed to thinking of them as reflections of a light source or something reflecting the light of the Sun. Revealing my bias perhaps. But we need to consider that those are shadows cast across the top of the bus.
The brightest light source is the Sun. Anything getting in its way, self-illuminated or not, is going to disrupt the main light source and cast more of a shadow across the top of the bus. Now that we know we are dealing with shadows, we can start to look for an angle of the Sun that might cause 2 wires to cast their shadows as seen on the RML's roofline. The fact that they seem to be angled left and right is fine. It may actually make sense after we look at a few overhead diagrams of the RML and decorations overhead. Just place the Sun over those wires. Mebbe… we can model that: a model bus. wires overhead, a light source?
Okay, this is my first stab at a possible mirroring of the basic layout of the Coventry wire/decoration layout.
Coincidentally, just sayin here. the angles of the shadows/reflections on the RML's roof comport with the actual angles of the wire decorations. IDK it could be a combination of shadow/light, or it is a plain reflection of the wires (which actually kinda works).
On second look at my diagram, it appears wrong. Back to drawing board.
Trying the shadow theory with different wires, thankfully there, and using an afternoon sun. See above diagram. >>13905713
Hope Anon doesn't mind me diagraming over his diagram. But understanding that these diagrams are imperfect in where the actual wires are placed, I found this particular V-shaped formation works to at least put the shadows striking the top of the bus with the V not being upside down as im my first attempt. Afternoon sun works fine.
Either way, I think we've made some very gud obs. Let's mull them over a bit. We could get a way to ID our bus or we add to our wires overhead. Could image enhancement help us?
>Still remembering there was a Tube >workers Strike and the older RML's were >pressed into service
And, while we were hoping that the transport shutdown on Christmas might explain our private hire bus there, it seems that it is not so uncommon an occurrence after all. Still, we are getting closer.
>actually, looking at that pic I think the "steering wheel" in the Q pic may actually just be that horizontal seal across window.
Sounds gud to me. But must disqualify myself from that conversation and let you resident RML experts agree on those items. I can't figure out what's going on with that cab. Staying out of that conversation. I think VidAnon is away atm. He was our expert but I see we have some very gud diggers with us. And while I think of it, Gud werk you guys, and thanks for your most valuable digging and obs tday!
Some very good points, Anon. Def gonna dig on this some more.
Let's keep digging on that. Imho, don't limit your thinking to that bus strike. Anon up bread has said private hires are not excluded from that bus stand. Then there is Christmas Day when all there is are buses and taxis, and maybe an Uber? There is an absence of any buses or the usual taxis in Piccadilly, and people look like they are hanging out waiting there, looking for oncoming traffic. While they are not at a bus stand, they could still be waiting for their Uber.
>fruity
Was looking around the corner and looking thru the RB cab. Does it seem sometimes like the RB picture taker might have been in the doorway of the Cafe de Paris?
>searched for how it was possible for a large portion of the building was not reflected on the bus…
Gonna just post this here. It may help new eyes or old, but the KFC, Cafe de Paris et al building is not square with Coventry Street. See pic. It could explain some counterintuitive reflections.
Anon, can you help reconcile the yellow line by the woman with purse near the white line?
To me they APPEAR to be the broken yellow line of the bus loading zone where it meets the solid white limit line.
The angle is confusing me. The yellow line should be parallel with the kerb yes? Is the bus parked properly parallel to kerb?
Unless the woman is standing just a little bit further down the street at the broken white lines of the crosswalk. I am/was seeing that white line as solid, but it may be broken? And the yellow line runs along the kerb?
This one? see link
https://spiral.imperial.ac.uk/handle/10044/1/89629
The dates of sources cited seem to be recent and up to date. It's 37 pages so I won't post it here.
Hunting? Found it right off the bat. No hunting involved.
>COME ON WE CAN TALK ABOUT FUCKING BUSES SOME OTHER TIME
Actually, we can talk about all of it at the same time. You start first about the Imperial College report. Start the ball rolling.
So you are saying that bus is completely behind line b? In other words, still inside the loading area? Doesn't seem to line up with the bottom edge of the side of the bus. Any chance the bus is awkwardly backing out and is not within the broken yellow line? Not looking to dispute. Just my confusion. Draw a line from that yellow line where the lady is and it doesn't (seem) to match the bus position. That wouldn't bother me or anything if it did. But there is a lot of foreshortening in that area. If we ignore it, fine. We just line up the bus sign with something in the background.
Dropping this as part of our discussion about possible time-of-day sequence markers, to possibly link the pics. On both of the street lamps we see one of three lamps lit. A gradual turning on of the lights at sunset? If so, then sunset was around 4pm during Christmas week.
Sorry, the right side lamp on the pic got cut off. Let me try posting a close up of each.
Sorry, Baker. This could be called a discussion about the RED BUS's orientation to the kerb and how that orientation affects what is reflected on its sides. That's why I was asking, anyway. If you are confused, it may be due to the fact that you are trying to follow a convo about MY confusion (re RB's being parallel or not to the broken yellow line).
Firstly, not sure if the SV image may have some fish-eye distortion or not, but consider "field of view" and where the camera angle would have to be to catch the RB cab from a slightly behind the cab/ angle. Pic submitted for consideration.
Secondly, I have simulated a RED BUS reflection on the window panels of the Cafe de Paris door. Might the bus's own reflection in those reflective panels act as a kind of reverse "green screen" to make it appear nothing is there? The idea being that red reflected on a red surface of the bus would show nothing. Just an idea.
Well, I do believe the woman is at the crosswalk. And true, the doors with window panes may even be too low to be reflected or are blocked by people. But regardless, I think if we align the 1) bus sign and 2)opposite traffic light and 3) front of bus as shown in RB we will have our camera angle to trace back to the picture taker. Not even sure if that matters at this point. What are we trying to prove, that pic is doctored? The we have what we were given. Maybe what would help is that bus ID and a record of its assignments. IDK
>what we are supposed to see
What we were provided. If doctored, then no more or less than we were meant to see. We were trying to date these pics. I think the fixing/attachment pits us during the 2013 Christmas holidays. RB was originally dropped with WW as well.
The Coventry side of KFC faces SSE. The awnings would be deployed in the morning to noontime to shade against low direct sun as shadows on the ground indicate in that pic provided. After noon the building facade is facing slightly away from sunlight. I can't see evidence of awnings in RB. Perhaps another indicia of afternoon, in addition appearance of sun highlights on the westward facing side people's faces and heads (right side) and with soft shadowing on their left (Eastward).
Other than that, can't see the small KFC sign on Coventry reflected on bus. If not there (yet) poss marker? SEE PICS
When was it installed or removed? May not even be important at all because of bus sign change is likely a more precise marker. But if anons should ask, we can maybe have an answer.
>For now, can we say with certainty that this 3-letter signage does NOT appear in RED BUS?
Well, apparently in AUGUST 2013 the 3-letter was RED. But in the Canadian's NYE vid they had switched to a WHITE 3-letter.
I know what you are thinking. White. But it is a substantially raised relief. I would expect to see that in RB.
Thank you very much, Baker. I reported the bot spam. Saw it in Germany when I checked there too. Prolly others.
3-letter sign should to be over the first window from the corner.
Dear Fren, I believe you may be suffering from "magic eye". The woman behind blonde Gina has dark red hair. She is wearing a white jacket. She is either holding a cellphone to her left hand or is fluffing het hair. You see her left elbow and forearm raised with her hand to the left side of her head. Her elbow and firearm are excellent to see the Sun position.
>Her elbow and firearm are excellent to see the Sun position.
Sorry, she has no firearm, but she has a forearm. Sorry for typos.
If by entrance you mean SIDE entrance then that's where I circled. If you mean the CORNER entrance then I disagree with you.
> I thought that was dark roots on the person leaning forward.
Kek. That is Gina's "wingman". Looks like she is fluffing her red hair outside her jacket collar. She even has glasses like Gina.
Okay, I think I am seeing that mini-sign with an image of "the Colonel's" face on it between a window and the red side entrance. The image really got bent there. So then.
>Anons, do you think the woman in white coat, with phone to ear, also appeared in WW pics near the tree sign/map display?
I could swear. But in that pic, her fren seems to have that hair that looks more like Gina when she appeared in the US to be made Director. Haven't been able to reconcile that. If that is the wingman-girl with Gina again, I guess a woman can dye her hair. And WW Gina dresses like you might expect an older woman to sport jeans. Nothing trendy or tight fitting.
That has been one of the reasons I am very open to the RB pic being from a different time. Not a lot of time, but a different day or week. But observe the body language of the redhead at WW. Acting like a wingman, attentive and facing her superior. Just sayin'
Does your scarf make you look gay?