>>13857027

Always thought Manchin could be one to flip to R.

Seemed to vote along with the wishes of his constituents, but not always. Thinking of impeachment votes, but those votes were meaningless, anyway.

Biggest question is did Manchin ever make a deciding vote before? One in which his vote alone mattered, and bucked the dem suits?

Would also think Sinema, if she's following the audit, would vote her conscience if results looked baked. I think Kelly was a steal as well as Bidan, so she might be one to vote along with Manchin to try to send the message of making a decision, however small, to make things right for AZ voters.

>>13857381

Looking more to me like the government was actually taken over by a hostile power, consisting of domestic and foreign entities.

That hostile power is creating laws, and their system is enforcing and adjudicating them. Explains, to me, the seemingly judicial system fuckery, because it isn't the US system that is in force now, since Jan 6 when Pence blew the US system up.

So the entity in power isn't going to give a shit about any audits. The operating condition is that the US citizenry accepts the current administration. That's the Clause 11.3 Law of War manual predicate, I think. Loyal US military won't engage if citizenry accepts the occupation.

It has to come an uprising of the citizenry that breaks down the civil government structure and breaks the secure fabric that the hostile government is obligated to maintain. Incontrovertible evidence of election fraud and the covid scam will be the trigger, along with Bidan reacting to it by saying, "Tough shit, it's my administration now".

"I don't think it has to be violent uprising. Protests and crippling strikes suffice.

My sSWAG is Bidan calls in the UN to try to quell the strikes and it's game on at that point. Peeps aren't going to accept it. That's my guess on what the gut punch is.

Everything has to come down at that point. No recognizable remnants of the current federal political appointments or GS staff can remain going forward.

>>13857579

Thanks. Good example. Precisely what I was thinking about when I said it would probably be non-violent.

Also, productive areas, people, being self-sufficient lead the way out. Cities are screwed. May be the coasts to central US power shift Pieczenic talks about.

>>13857619

Not sure this is the best idea. If they can steal a presidential election they can make sure a convention of states fucks up the constitution beyond repair.