> Is it the Jews or not? Starting with the Protocols that our Jewish friends claim to have debunked thousands of time.

First, and I've said this before, it's best (when not trying to be chan-edgy) to be more specific in order to avoid the anti-semitic label, or at least to have a decent defense against it.

I say people should be more specific:

Rothschild zionist luciferian kabbalistic sabbatean frankists jews, as one example of being more precise.

The Khazarian angle is vastly overstated - and in truth, probably actually were part of the OG group, which I have traced largely to the Hittites, a vastly under analyzed group in the region. The primary key for understanding why the Hittites, is their temple was basically just a large set of many rooms, where they would put the spoils from their wars/raids, and they just worshipped them all. The Hittites are also famous for being one of the few early cultures to use metal as well as they did and chariots… well what did they do in ~1531 BCE? They sacked Babylon…

So they found, like the crusaders later who found some of the fragment remnants of these same spoils (or ones from the captivity period), some artefacts that weren't just idols made by idle hands… some sort of knowledge was gained. This caused much instability and the eventual downfall of the culture at the hands of the Hurrians and Assyrians, but the eventual leftover peoples that were initiated into the ancient mysteries passed down that knowledge to…

the more modern Ashkenazic jews. One Israeli geneticist said this: "the word Ashkenaz originally comes from Ashguza - the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian name for the Iron Age Eurasian steppeland people, the Scythians." - see the connection the Khazarians? If not, look at a map of the Scythians and a map of the Khazars.

The Babylonian exile started roughly in 597 BCE, in which these later descendants (my timeframes are jumping a bit, the Ashkenzi came later), the exact same scenario happened - esoteric knowledge from ancient Sumer, at the time Babylonia, was gained during the exile, and then passed down to the initiated within the now much more modern (few hundred BCE to present) "jews".

"Dr Sandor Nagy says there were two separate migrations of the Sumerian people out of Mesopotamia. One was through Turkey to the Carpathian Basin and the other went east, and then north, across the Caucasus Mountains into the area between the Caspian and Black Seas."

So the commonality here is always:

Sumeria

Forget every middle ages book about the occult you ever read… they are all just memories of fragments of stories of tales of legends poorly recorded. (some obvious hoaxes) If you want the real origin of the evil, it's always Sumeria. Texts of Sumer were older to the upstart canaanites than the bible is to us today… probably founded before egypt, a likely offshoot of the same post-deluge atlantean refugees.

and always remember… Abraham was a sumerian. So the god of the bible… is a Sumerian god. (that should explain a lot for those that have understanding)

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Now, as for the protocols; the book you want is "Waters Flowing Eastward", which explains how the ones we have were a forgery….

of the originals… (forgery meaning closer to reproduction than completely made up)

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Soooo, basically all the mystery religions from each of the modern monotheisms is just a cultural offshoot branch of the same ancient mystery school(s). Of which the Sabbatean Frankist (good is bad) luciferians, the Mason lucierians, the Jesuit luciferians, and the Sufi luciferians (Suadi's royals are actually Jewish donmeh also initiated, and spend a lot of time hanging with UK royalty…) are just sub-offshoots (and before that, the roman Mithraism). So basically, while "the jews" play a large role in this due to their proximity of culture to the source, they are only a part of the group, not the whole group or the "controlling group"… and lets be frank here, most jews are just like most masons… not actually that bad. It's all about compartmentalization to shield the upper rings within rings.

So like I said, you have to be more specific, and understand that the initiates into the ancient mystery schools can come from all kinds of cultural or religious backgrounds, and are separate, apart from, the religion(s) themselves.