I found the mention of this paper in a clip with Joe Rogan.

http://europepmc.org/article/PMC/4516275

I have not read the paper, but the headlined hypothesis makes sense: If you have a very dangerous pathogen and there is a vaccine which helps the recipient avoid death but allows them to transmit the pathogen then the vaccine will help perpetuate the virulent pathogen.

Historically, without vaccines, highly virulent pathogens died out quickly as they terminated their hosts. A vaccine which reduces serious symptoms and deaths in the recipients will allow a lot of people carrying the deadly pathogen to continue spreading it.

"COVID" jabs turing the ignorant into Typhoid Mary type super spreaders, imo.

http://europepmc.org/article/PMC/4516275

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>>14292236

I used "Q" tonic water early on in the "pandemic". I imagine the FDA made sure the amount was sub therapeutic, but the Q brand had fewer artificial ingredients.

I took many, many appropriate immune enhancing things including foods such as garlic, licorice (Panda brand from Finland) etc.

Though I'm sure the quinine was not helpful by itself, I was hopeful the synergy and the simple placebo effect of doing the research and empowering myself was, if that makes sense.

With few options early on I enjoyed the tonic water and might have helped myself- a little.

For grins here are some of the myriad things I have looked at or am using now: Not possible for FDA to block them all!

quinine, green tea (EGCG), garlic, onions, lemon, grapefruit (quercetin), zinc, pine needles, anise, licorice, Vitamin D (mostly from sun), bromelain, NAC, Vitamin C, fennel, dandelion, and magnesium

I enjoy elderberry, especially as part of zinc drops or as part of a drink with ACV, but I don't think it is good against putative "virus".

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I think there are two mechanisms at work, one is the survival of the virulent pathogen in hosts who do not succumb due to vaccination. The other is the driving of the evolution of the pathogen to survive "around" the immunity. Both would be unhelpful I think if your goal is to end an epidemic.

Your statement by Dr. Malone seems to address both concerns in that in either case, vaccinating during the outbreak would be very unhelpful.

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I had looked at some information from Natural News and another source to discover that white pine needles might contain shikimic acid (and possibly suramin?) which might be beneficial against spike protein disease. I think to use the pine needles it is important to verify that the species of pine you collect needles from is safe/beneficial as some are not.

I actually went looking for trees with long needles (sort of whitish on one side) with five needles to a bunch. I was prepared to collect enough to make a tea from if I felt it was necessary. At the time I had access to star anise and anise extract and I ended up using those. I have no idea if this is truly helpful but I've begun adding some drops of anise extract to my coffee.

The whole process over the course of the last 18 months has lead me to some minor weight loss and my energy level is higher.

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>>14292313

The mass vaccination campaigns have lead to everyone's immediate question upon the sudden, unexpected death of anyone in public view: "Was he/she recently vaccinated?"

We need to ask this same question every time an infant succumbs to "SIDS", too.

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"quitely"?

>>14292355

Very good. I will need to keep this option open.