J.TrIDr3ESpPJEs ID: 2d2c38 April 12, 2018, 2:13 p.m. No.1015655   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5931

I see you guys removed the Tumbler Pigeon OS thread I made. Sad panda. I spent roughly 2 years research and development on that censorship resistant OS (I started as soon as I saw the warning signs of censorship corruption emerging) and thought Qanons etc would appreciate an OS that can create copies of itself and redistribute itself via WebTorrents.

 

I mean, you could argue it's thread sliding/off-topic, but it's an awful lot of effort to go through* (making an entire OS, reskinning, creating a working .iso etc, setting up a good peer source, providing screenshot so on and so forth), and I thought Qanons would greatly appreciate an entire OS whose goal is not to be censored and doesn't support war, and is open source - IE not illegal.

 

I know the usual spiel of 'you can post to any thread anywhere', but you actually can't. If I posted Tumbler Pigeon to any other thread I'd likely be accused of off-topic posting irrelevant to topic research, and you don't exactly have a 'tools for Qanons' thread going (maybe war-room, but that seems planning/image related rather than 'useful tools' related).

 

Can someone explain to me what exactly I did wrong that warranted it's deletion? If you guys don't want a custom built censorship-resistant OS, I'm okay with upping sticks and taking it elsewhere, but for 2 years worth of experimental development, can ya give me at least a basic explanation?

 

*Relative to simply creating any old thread on any unrelated bullshit topic like quantum matrix veil flat earth magic bullshit. Even if you claim I faked the OS, that's a lot of time to waste on creating a desktop image from scratch.

J.TrIDr3ESpPJEs ID: 2d2c38 April 12, 2018, 2:50 p.m. No.1016243   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>6663

>>1015931

 

>Yeah it's not Q related, this is a research board.

 

Not exclusively though. For example, you have topics on how to archive websites offline that relies on Linux. Tumbler Pigeon is a Linux system.

 

In another thread you cover facebook (and others) datamining, with the meta-narrative of how to escape datamining. You might have to refer to my comments there on why, but you already (likely) know Windows 10 datamines, and systemd is a walking backdoor (TP minimises how much systemd it touches - admittedly not perfect but I take feedback and suggestions).

 

>If I let every anon post their direct statement to Q or their open source software the entire catalog would be slid, this is a research board.

Perhaps create a specific area for posting direct messages, software? I mean, you literally have a code thread "the quest for searchability", which suggests tools used for research are permitted, and everyone here literally uses an OS (if they didn't I would be impressed and have to ask 'how').

 

>I'm not seeing the relevance to your pet project and what we're doing here. If it does research let me know.

 

These are arguably two separate points.

 

1) Anti-datamining (no Windows 10 backdoors and based on an OS type that shuns systemd).

2) Anti-censorship (a major issue everyone is facing when trying to spread any kind of truthful message. Please note the updated Office 365 ToS regarding 'hate speech' and other censorship crap).

3) Linux based (relevant as you do archival via Linux).

 

Regarding 'does research', it does everything. It's an OS. We're all doing research right now on an OS with a web browser, and TP is the latter and has the former.

 

Also might be worth pointing out a lot of major Linux distros have or are phasing out 32-bit support. It's already dead in the water in any major Debian based OS.

 

I could sell the specifics of why you would want TP but I think the fact it's an OS where you can install any type of software (it's barebones, no bloatware) should suffice.

 

If you really wanted to gear up TP into a research tool, I could hammer out a .sh file for it in about 5 minutes and host on GitHub.

J.TrIDr3ESpPJEs ID: 2d2c38 April 12, 2018, 4:04 p.m. No.1017253   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7334

>>1016663

 

>Water is wet.

As said, you already know that. A big reason to encourage a transfer from Windows.

 

>PoC||GTFO

>Again PoC||GTFO on systemd, everybody knows systemd's history. Literally everybody. We're actually touching a bit on how the OpenSource community is going to be hit by these revelations.

 

Revelations of systemd being a backdoor? Unfortunately it's already widespread. It's in every major Linux OS available, much to my dismay. Removing it requires an entire team of people.

 

The only ones not hit by it are OpenBSD/FreeBSD, and Devuan is apparently trying to get free of it but hasn't gotten fully clear yet. FreeBSD isn't entirely user friendly (and if you can install FreeBSD, job done).

 

Unless you mean systemd isn't a backdoor, then I refer back to Poettering's tendency to label vulnerabilities 'features' (Red Hat get large cash from the NSA, and one anon whistleblower says they pass on bug reports to Linus on the NSA's behalf).

 

>No Way, I only compute with gravitational lensing and cosmic radiation.

I was expecting a potato/amiga joke, or even FORTRAN.

 

Real men use the Babbage machine and tickertape.

 

>Just because you didn't directly decide to interfere with your users does not make you anti-censorship.

 

You're suggesting I'm indirectly interfering with my users to censor them? How exactly?

 

>That's a thread that was stickied because it clearly took quite a bit of effort.

But an R&D 2 year OS doesn't count? Your metrics are off.

 

>Yeah, and it works pretty well, and I can get tons of support with a simple search.

Right, but that substantiates my point.

 

>Now you're just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks.

 

No, they really are phasing out 32-bit support.

 

Manjaro:

https:// www.ghacks.net/2017/09/25/manjaro-linux-phasing-out-i686-32bit-support/

Arch:

https:// www.archlinux.org/news/phasing-out-i686-support/

Canonical looking to phase out 32-bit:

https:// www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2463756/linux-developers-aim-to-phase-out-32-bit-system-support

CentOS only offers 64-bit from 7 onwards (unless you want to use the community edition):

https:// www.centos.org/download/

OpenSuSe only has 64 bit downloads on offer for newest versions:

https:// software.opensuse.org/distributions/leap

 

But sure, lets all upgrade to UEFI Microsoft controlled BIOS hardware.

 

>And here's the heart of the problem, you're in the wrong place to be selling me anything, and frankly your pitch makes whatever you're doing smell like snake oil.

 

Sell is used as a colloquialism (you're asking for why it's related). It's free.

 

Refracta replicates, WebTorrent desktop client reseeds (WT works even in web browsers in a pinch). Desktop file calls a script I wrote that fires off ISO creation, handles the renaming/seeding of the ISO.

 

Rest of TP is cleaning house on Devuan bloat (over 1gb reduced to 656mb) to bring within CD. Docs, caches purged, packages cherry picked for size.

 

>I think people would rather have an application they can run locally, go to the quest for search-ability thread and see what they've got there.

 

You could run TP from a CD or inside a VirtualBox if you wanted it 'local', but the latter wouldn't be an optimal usage.

 

I would propose actually asking the people if it holds interest, though.

 

>Take your shit to /tech/.

Technology enthusiasts I often find aren't that appreciative, because they're the ones either using Win10, smartphones or systemd to begin with. 'If we pretend it isn't backdoored, it isn't backdoored'.

 

Same peeps who are only now screaming about facebook.

 

Do you have any boards with paranoid people who would likely appreciate an OS that can't be censored and is doing what it can to kick systemd in the balls?