>I believe all photos were taken while on foot.
Please clarify. LISA and CH? Or do you include the “TrafCams” as well?
In the past, I have entertained the idea that the designation “NSA_Traf_Cam” may have been tongue-in-cheek, and that all the pics were hand-held cams. Would explain the picture sizing being same for Trafcam pics vs Corinthia Hotel (CH) series.
Thanks for the pics. If I were taking pics there, I might steady my camera using the handrail.
Well, let’s think back on this then. Thinking out loud here. If true about the TRAF CAM pics being in actuality (not)TRAF CAM pics, then there is the question of why Q would label those as such. For by calling them as such (Traf cam), what would be the reason for doing that, if you knew they were not- but there was a real traf cam there. Maybe Q is telling someone who may have access to footage of certain traffic cams, that they might want take a a look at footage from that particular cam.
So, if you are Q, you publish something you know is not true but you know using the name “traf cam” would invite attention to your untruth? Is it an intended delay in “decode”, or discovery until a later date?
Anon, what were the SV findings made on the Traf Cam actually being there during December 2013? Can’t remember if we were discussing that back when we were still trying to narrow the EMB bookends using the shrouds and SV.
Am not sure we’ve laid a clear path yet on that yet to move on. Please briefly describe why we should no longer believe the “traf cam” pics to be traf cam pics.
As we have been revisiting and reconsidering the VICTORIA EMBANKMENT series for time sequence and connectivity, I have been looking at LISAMI6 with a mind toward comparing it with the rest of the ROT SERIES and LONDON2847 to place its timeframe within the EMB series.
I do not believe LISA was taken within the short time sequence of the rest of the EMBANKMENT series. It was taken some time before or after.
Most notable is that the EMB series dark car with the brake lights (behind a silvery vehicle) is 3 car lengths behind where the LISA car with brake lights is seen. In LISA, this dark car with brake light(also behind a silvery vehicle) is in front of the TATTERSHALL CASTLE (uncovered) gangway. The EMB car with brake lights parked just beyond the HISPANIOLA (sheltered) entrance.
Differences noted are numbers of parked cars, spaces between cars and even the color/make of some.
Note the very beginning of the bus loading/car parking area running South on Victoria Embankmemt begins just past the entrance to the restaurant ship RS HISPANIOLA which is a lighted, sheltered entrance to the gangway of said restaurant ship, just past the first tree with a sign next to it.
If the very cars and spaces between them are not a match, it begs the question as to LISA being taken even on the same evening. If we just go with the theory LISA was taken the same evening around Christmas, then was it before or after the ROT/2847 series?
I believe the order of cars/spaces in EMB pics is thus: Beginning with a half SPACE, then 2 cars(1 dark with brake lights, begind 1 white or light silver looking car), then 2 SPACES, then 3 cars(a grey metallic, behind a light car, behind a dark car(pulling out in LONDON2847), a SPACE, then a silver-looking small car behind a Van?, behind 2 more light cars.
So for EMB we have I think: (space), 2 cars, (2 spaces), 3 cars, (space), then 1 car, behind van, behind 2 cars, then (3 spaces) at HORSE GUARDS “T”-intersection.
The LISA pic we have 2 cars, (space), 4 maybe 5 cars, (small space) then 2 cars.
Imho, the parked cars are different in LISA vs EMB.
Please tear it up anons. Your differing opinions and observations are requested.
To which dark car are you referring to, Anon?
>The cars 3rd and 4th in the traf cam are the same as the two in lisami6
>Do you see a possibility of the dark car with rear lights engaged - in EMB - having rolled forward into spaces as per LisaM6?
Of course. It could even be 2 cars moving together, as anon has mentioned 2 cars together, when space opens ahead. Would be thoughtful of them to move up after spaces emptied ahead to make it easier for drivers behind to park? How long do anons think that might have taken to wait for those places ahead to open up? Do we have a couple of drivers who both waited til they could move forward a little bit together? Drivers? Along that line, what kind of folk have drivers. Can’t see the whole group waiting around for more optimal parking. No, the group took off walking before any re-parking of the cars, by drivers would occur. Unless, the drivers, of possibly the same two cars returned for the LISA pic. This line of thinking would male LISA after EMB, as the group has already gone it on foot in EMB. So again, LISA would not be before EMB.
Considering the theory that the car(s) did move forward, it did not happen during the timeframe observed in the EMB pics. We have to now be open to the POSSIBILITY that LISA was taken at a “different time”. That evening or that week. What we can observe (LISA v. EMB) are 2 different kerbside configurations of parked cars, and that in both of them we have possibly the same dark car with brake lights pulling up behind another car which is silverish. So then, we could also possibly have two “parkings” of two vehicles? A group. Six passengers, two “drivers”, ?
Apologies for my posts being poorly written, for missing words or an incomplete sentence here and there. Am posting off the top off my head as thoughts come to me.
>rectangular box is next to the parked cars
I think you may be referring to a raised park bench facing the Thames.
Anons, I am reconsidering just where those first two cars parked in LISA actually are in the loading area.
Look at how brake lights car in LISA is just past the uncovered TATTS gangway. This is roughly 6 car lengths from the beginning of the loading/parking area. See pic provided. It shows a small white can which appears to be of an average car length. If you number those car lengths starting at the Hispaniola entrance, then the white van in the pic would be in the #2 position (next to the park bench).
Using this picture provided to gauge car lengths in the LISA pic, and labeling the parking spot next to TATTS’ uncovered gangway as #6, the space behind that would be #5 and the #4 and 3 positions would be the first two parked cars in LISA. But behind those cars are positions #1 and 2.
I now think the camera angle in LISA does not show the beginning of the loading zone.
I still feel that the LISA parking configuration is different from EMB pics.
LISA (brake lights)= #6 position
EMB (brake lights)= #1/2 position
Anons, if I am right about the number of trees being 3 spanning the distance from the HISP entrance to the front of TATTS, and if the LISA brake lights car is just beyond the first gangway (uncovered one) in front if TATTS, then WE MAY HAVE PROOF LISAMI6 was taken on a different evening. Anon up thread mentioned bins and put the thought in my head. Basically, if the LISA brake lights car is parked in front of that 3rd tree, then it does not match the bins seen by that same 3rd tree in the EMB pics which seem to show bins just next to and beyond the 3rd tree.
Tree in front of TATTS seen in vid posted by anon appears to have the same branch structure seen in EMB pics. What do you think? Bins. No bins?