Anonymous ID: bb7375 Sept. 1, 2021, 6:17 a.m. No.14502640   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Who breaks ties in the senate when there is no Vice President?

 

https://www.quora.com/Who-breaks-ties-in-the-senate-when-there-is-no-Vice-President?top_ans=60258044

 

Carter Moore

, Political Science, BA

Answered 3 years ago · Author has 4.1K answers and 18.4M answer views

The rules of the Senate require a majority vote for a measure to pass; and so if no majority can be attained, the motion fails.

 

It’s interesting that this hasn’t come up more often in US history, because prior to the 25th Amendment, entire presidential terms passed when there was no Vice President. That’s because there was no Constitutional mechanism outside of an election to name someone Vice President in the event of a vacancy.

 

Harry Truman, for example, didn’t have a Vice President from his assuming the office in April 1945 until his inauguration in January 1949. That followed from John Tyler, who took over from William Henry Harrison, and did not have a Vice President for the duration of his presidency (1841–45), nor did Andrew Johnson after taking over from Lincoln (1865–69). Franklin Pierce did not get a replacement Vice President after his died only a few months into the term (1853–57).

 

However, the 25th Amendment makes it mandatory for a President to nominate a Vice President when there is a vacancy, thus ensuring continuity of government.

 

But the latter examples of extended veep vacancies are particularly interesting, because ties in the Senate were fairly common during that era of American history (ie, on either side of the Civil War).

 

The most notable example of when the absence of a Vice President could have resulted in a rather significant failure in the US Senate was in the last days of the Tyler administration and the 28th United States Congress.

 

Tyler was trying to secure the annexation of Texas by joint resolution of Congress. The Whigs, which controlled the Senate, were balking - having defeated the first attempt to annex Texas in 1844. It looked as though the question would come down to a tie vote; and, given that there was no Vice President, the resolution would have failed.

 

Fortunately for Tyler and Texas, in 1837 an Indiana farmer named Jamison Shoemaker cast the deciding vote in an election for a state legislator who went on to cast the deciding vote to name Edward Hannegan to the US Senate who cast the deciding vote in favor of Texas’ annexation.

 

But I’m sure in those days that Tyler really, really wished he had a Vice President.

 

Douglas Chapel

, B.A. in Political Science, summa cum laude

Answered 4 years ago · Author has 980 answers and 1.9M answer views

If there is no vice president, either because he is not present in the Senate or because the office is actually vacant, then a tied vote in the Senate just fails.

 

There have only been 244 ties in U.S. history, so this doesn’t come up that often, and it’s become less and less common over time. (The vice president with the most tie-breaking votes was John Adams, the first holder of the office). Joe Biden, for example, has not cast a single tie-breaking vote. Filibuster rules require most Senate votes to pass with at least 60 members voting in favor, so a vote with the potential to result in a 50–50 tie is actually likely to fail to receive cloture in the first place.

 

Still, if a tie is anticipated on something, then the vice president will be aware of it and will be sure to be present to vote. If the vice presidency becomes vacant, then the 25th Amendment provides for a new one to be appointed by the president, in part to ensure that this constitutional role can be fulfilled.

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