>>145331

I think it wise to reserve judgment. A lot of people want to still want to put a white hat on Snowden for example. We don't know the whole story. Maybe Scalia was a pedo or maybe someone was twisting his arm on the side i just dont see how his persona or stance could have benefitted the deep state if they couldnt manipulate him.

It begs to question though how deeply corrupt some of the more recent appointments are

Hopefully one day we will have a clearer picture of what truly went down though i do worry that a fog will linger over some things.

That said, i have no reservations in my belief that Podesta needs to answer for his crimes.

>>145348

The Catholic church is a good case study for how fubared global government can get. The pope and vatican are so far removed from regional churches that they dont really know what tge regional churches need. The vatican city is this mysterious epicenter of religious activity which is not very accessible to the majority of Catholics. Scandals and corruption run rampant and the regional churches don't seem to have any recourse or means to root it out.

>>145506

All you have to do is watch the journalist interview ing people at the women's march. Half couldn't articulate why they were there and spewed lying talking points about Trump. Reminds me of that stupid comedy skit about broadway reviews where everyone repeats the same phrase "i loved it. It was much better than Cats"

Ironically they come home from their protests and accuse the opposition of being lying crazy sheep (because they are the real independent thinkers you see)

>>145513

If all the secret societies are into satanic ritual abuse i vote against it. I think the best way to avoid a recurrance is to improve the awareness of this crap. There have been documentaries, numerous victims coming forward over the years. The stag heads have been telegraphing their gameplan for centuries and we as a society were about to just go along with it willingly while accusing the few awake people of being paranoid kooks spouting conspiracy theories. Its almost like we let our society get AIDS and it was attacking its own immune system

>>145667

Oh I know they are on the same side. My parents voted for Hillary and are strident Trump bashers. I can't redpill them yet. It is very painful to discuss politics with them. My father gets irrationally emotional about politics and until his bubble gets popped, I dont believe it is possible to have a sensible conversation with him.

When I was younger he used to get drunk and rant for hours. When I was old enough to vote I hated politics and wanted nothing to do with it. I would probably still be like that if i hadnt married someone with a healthier grasp of the subject.

>>145708

I think I can safely say I wasn't mkultra'd at any point but when I was younger I was fiercely shy and horribly socially awkward so I had two distinct personalities I used. One had my full given name, and one used my nickname. One was very serious and rarely spoke and spent a considerable amount of time observing other people. The other was more normal and ultimately happy.

I don't think it is unhealthy to explore different aspects of yourself especially while gtowing up and while I feel more whole and normal now than I did then, I think the time I sprnt rigidly studying other people has given me some excellent insights

>>145754

I intend to try to keep the conversation within the parameters of what my parents understand. They had been Bernie supporters who obediently went all in for HRC. It baffled me that they could yell and BTFO big pharma and the big bad wall street corporations and then turn around and decide they were with Her. I immediately saw that the lines of battle had shifted with trump, no more left right, but nationalist vs globalist and the corporationd and big pharma were reliably with the globalists.