Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 5, 2021, 11:55 p.m. No.14935626   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>14935597

pretty sure its coercion at the very least and that does fall under the terms of a threat. So yeah scare tactics are threats and threats of violations of your liberty and personal safety. Every last one of them top down are complicit. Speedy executions for all of them.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 12:20 a.m. No.14935666   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5671 >>5677

>>14935642

another consideration is how the disease spreads. It is not something i think is innate, it is most of times i believe caused by childhood trauma. Something happened either spiritually or sexually that creates this later in life. What is the saying gays reproduce by molesting. This creates a fractured persona and it take a lot to try to find the light in the world again, most fall deeper into the madness as there is no rationalization so they become post modern in approach. Others go crazy kill them selves and still others who are able to find God and Jesus again and realize that salvation is for all. Its all child abuse that leads into problems growing up and adulting.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 12:29 a.m. No.14935686   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5713

>>14935671

It is only once people accept that, that any of this bullshit can start to be addressed. The real issue is many of the people who act out like this are not ready to come to Christ and healing, they enjoy their pain, and even approaching them like there is some sort of mental health issue you get kick back, and many still will not want to go against their parents who were the very source for much of the abuse. I know i live every day with what my parents did to me, and this battle sadly triggers me many days like the shower story with Biden. But i also have come a long fucking way and a long way still to go but Christ walks with me at least. I feel sorry for them but i also know that they still have antichrist spirit within and that makes them dangerous also. Complicated issue.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 12:33 a.m. No.14935695   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5701

>>14935677

no we don't that is the misconception the "conservative" side has the entire pull yourselves up by your boot straps mentality. You have the illusion of choice, but what if you do not realize if you have a choice. Your digits say you are trying to be honest though in your approach its just that with Trauma the choice is often cut off, and what would be considered healthy morality is not even a concept so the choice is not there, this is the disease of the post modern logic also, because it supports the abusive mentality and speaks of relativity. You also have to add that many things like homosexuality they do not consider wrong, trans shit they do not think is wrong. Just your opinion is the response you get, or hatemonger because you are trying to direct them in a path that runs counter and you are offering the choice. Choice is not that simple.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 12:46 a.m. No.14935720   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5725

>>14935701

well everyone makes a choice every day, do i drink coffee or drink water? That goes for everybody. So not to be too rude but that is kinda obvious. So if you are talking about personal responsibility, well that is an issue also because responsible for what? to not act in an evil or amoral way,? what if you do not consider what you are doing to be evil, but it could be considered that? welcome to post modern cancer of thought again. Saying personal responsibility and choice are lazy in my thoughts as approaches to dealing with the issues of the fractured mind steming from abuse. You have the choice to not be trans for example, these people do not consider they have a choice their "CHoice" is to be trans but is that their choice or the darkness of trauma that was transferred on to them.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 12:55 a.m. No.14935729   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5737 >>5741

>>14935725

wrong, totally wrong. also ignorant of what trauma does to an individual, it strips them of the choice to choose differently. Homosexuality yes it's there choice to suck a dick, but what if they have been PROGRAMED to make that choice because of the trauma. Also choice would infer that there is another option, well you could say well they could not suck the dick, but again that is just a lazy observation then. What if they have been programmed by abuse to think this is the way of things and how they SHOULD act. Your approach is honestly lazy and lacks any concept of what the traumatized mind goes through. You have to be shown there is another path or choice as you like to word it, just doing or not doing something is not how this works and again is lazy.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 1:08 a.m. No.14935762   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5767 >>5771

>>14935741

i know of what you are speaking but not the book in question. But you have to take into account then what were there lives like before that trauma. Did they have good loving lives, or were they abused and hurt by the ones they loved. What other situational modifiers were in there. Yes the situation was the same but were all there other situations the same, No. You can not lump in people like that as to some thrived and others did not based on choice. There experiences were different, and this is why the post modern thought has some truth in it. All good lies do. It is not always easy to alter the ships course, when the wind is not under your control, can you direct it perhaps, but the wind the thing beyond your control can still drift you off course even if you had a direction in mind.

 

>>14935744

and you are further proving you are an idiot who does not understand trauma, can you fight back against it yes, but you have to first understand what has happened and then only then can you make a choice.

 

>>14935751

and now you are just proving you are an idiot also. Its not excuses, its called trauma for a reason it alters your brain permanently, your chemistry permanently, you become damaged because of it permanently. Can you over come it to some degree you can, and i realize you are going to call that a choice, but that is you parsing words.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 1:16 a.m. No.14935782   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5785 >>5787 >>5794

>>14935767

 

well thank you for that, but depends on the day to be honest. But i also know that in the depths of my despair Jesus came to me. But like today the shower thing with Biden coming up again triggered some memories for me. But when you look at others they are in denial of their trauma so they can't even start to heal or make that choice because they do not see themselves like that. Its not as easy as just CHOOSE, its a much more complex situation.

Most of these people like myself need help, NOT the pull yourself up by your bootstraps approach because, ABC did not act this way neither should you.

 

>>14935771

I dunno, i heard they had swimming pools. You make the choice at that point in time YES, but what factors what stimuli were in your brain damaged or not before that to influence your decision in that choice. I don't think you understand what you are talking about to be honest i think you just think we approach every situation in a neutral position. WE do not we approach at a million different vectors and because of that we approach each situation differently and the "good" choice may not seem like the good choice.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 1:24 a.m. No.14935795   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5806

>>14935785

o7

 

>>14935787

I am doing better every day, the original question was why are "degenerates" acting like they do. I hate the word choice because its not so simple for people, and when its boiled down to a almost bilateral decision i think its a terrible way to help people leave the immoral and strive to the moral when so many other factors have been in play.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 1:29 a.m. No.14935811   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5818 >>5819

>>14935794

No God did not make us robots, but this is why those who hurt children were called to be punished because it drives the children further from Gods grace and he has to reach a lot further down to fish us out. Reminds me of the Choose Life speech, but when you look at this character, drugs and violence were part of his life, WHY? its not so much as the choice its the Why the choice was made and can they turn away from it, most need help, but also most have rejected the help they really need.

 

>>14935796

But ask a gay guy if they are responsible, they could say yes, but are they? By whose standards ours or theirs. I hate post modernism for a reason because it can be applied so easily to morality and choice.

Anonymous ID: d18769 Nov. 6, 2021, 1:38 a.m. No.14935826   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>5833

>>14935819

you just said the word control. Does someone control our initial choices. ALter the course of them, can we change them, maybe but that is not always a choice for some. That is the point who has control. Well there is something about punishing those who hurt the children. That is what i mean by punishing. All sin is evil, YES, BUT not all see their lives as sinful. Its not as easy as saying let it go either. yes god's hands but that is a long process of accepting. You keep almost obsessing over the word choice. It is not that easy, and i seem to get the feeling that you think it is. Its a process and that is what these people need help with understanding as well if we can save them at all.

 

>>14935818

we don't lack all, but as i keep saying its not as easy as saying choose this or choose that because it depends where you start what your perception of those choices are.