Anonymous ID: 4399cb Dec. 22, 2021, 7:56 a.m. No.15237034   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>7078

>>15230501

 

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“Recently, the archaeological discovery of substantial numbers of Murex shells on Crete suggests that the Minoans may have pioneered the extraction of Imperial purple centuries before the Tyrians. Dating from collocated pottery suggests the dye may have been produced during the Middle Minoan period in the 20th–18th century BCE. Accumulations of crushed murex shells from a hut at the site of Coppa Nevigata in southern Italy may indicate production of purple dye there from at least the 18th century BCE.”

 

>> This is written with the assumption the Phoenician invented the dye somewhere in the first millennium B.C. without considering the possibility this could actually thousands of years old. Also there are indications that some of the Greek islands were initially Phoenician colonies Don’t disregard the possibility of southern Italy being a territory run by the Phoenicians, long ago.

 

“The production of Murex purple for the Byzantine court came to an abrupt end with the sack of Constantinople in 1204, the critical episode of the Fourth Crusade. David Jacoby concludes that "no Byzantine emperor nor any Latin ruler in former Byzantine territories could muster the financial resources required for the pursuit of murex purple production. On the other hand, murex fishing and dyeing with genuine purple are attested for Egypt in the tenth to 13th centuries." By contrast, Jacoby finds that there are no mentions of purple fishing or dyeing, nor trade in the colorant in any Western source, even in the Frankish Levant. The European West turned instead to vermilion provided by the insect Kermes vermilio, known as grana, or crimson.

 

In 1909, Harvard anthropologist Zelia Nuttall compiled an intensive comparative study on the historical production of the purple dye produced from the carnivorous murex snail, source of the royal purple dye valued higher than gold in the ancient Near East and ancient Mexico. Not only did the people of ancient Mexico use the same methods of production as the Phoenicians, they also valued murex-dyed cloth above all others, as it appeared in codices as the attire of nobility. "Nuttall noted that the Mexican murex-dyed cloth bore a "disagreeable … strong fishy smell, which appears to be as lasting as the color itself." Likewise, the ancient Egyptian Papyrus of Anastasi laments: "The hands of the dyer reek like rotting fish …" So pervasive was this stench that the Talmud specifically granted women the right to divorce any husband who became a dyer after marriage.

 

In 2021, archaeologists found surviving wool fibers dyed with royal purple in the Timna Valley in Israel. The find, which was dated to c. 1000 BCE, constituted the first direct evidence of fabric dyed with the pigment from antiquity.”

 

>> It’s very interesting isn’t it to find out almost the same exact dye was produced in Mexico. Not said which civilization or culture did it, but I found out it was practiced in the region called Oaxana. They used almost same sea snails, same technique, same secret. And the value of the purple dye clothing was as high as what it was in the Mediterranean basin. It was also worn by “high ranking” people there. What does this tell you anons?

 

For the papyri from Ancient Egypt, it talks about dyers in general, it doesn’t specify at all which dye color they worked on. Same thing goes for the stuff mentioned about the Jews. And (((they))) have to insert (((themselves))) in this one more time. From the hundreds of examples out there, Wikipedia only picked purple fibers found in Israel, not from anywhere else in the world. This is how (((they))) play with your mind and program it to think of the Jews and Israel each time you think of the pruple dye. This is so that your mind would connect them to royalty = redirecting your thoughts into thinking of the Jews as royalty. It’s all a mind game anons. All of this is very psychological. Mind control and thought manipulation = this is what the Jews are good at and (((they))) have been at it for at least 2 thousand years now.

 

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Anonymous ID: 4399cb Dec. 22, 2021, 8 a.m. No.15237078   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1998

>>15237034

 

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“Murex purple production in North Africa

 

Murex purple was a very important industry in many Phoenician territories and Carthage was no exception. Traces of this once very lucrative industry are still visible in many Punic sites such as Kerkouane, Zouchis, Djerba and even in Carthage itself. According to Pliny, Meninx (today's Djerba) produced the best purple in Africa which was also ranked second only after Tyre's. It was found also at Essaouira (Morocco). The Royal purple or Imperial purplewas probably used until the time of Augustine of Hippo (354–430 CE) and before the demise of the Roman Empire.”

 

>> What are the odds almost each and every single one of those purple dye producing facility we have all around the Med Sea are Phoenicians? Since they monopolized the secret formula for the dye…they must have dominated the trade in the entire Med basin. Also isn’t it strange that the formula remaind a secret despite so many facilities….until the Romans came?

 

“Dye chemistry

 

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In 1998, by means of a lengthy trial and error process, an English engineer named John Edmonds rediscovered a process for dyeing with Tyrian purple. He researched recipes and observations of dyers from the 15th century to the 18th century and explored the biotechnology process behind woad fermentation. After collaborating with a chemist, Edmonds hypothesized that an alkaline fermenting vat was necessary. He studied an incomplete ancient recipe for Tyrian purple recorded by Pliny the Elder. By altering the percentage of sea salt in the dye vat and adding potash, he was able to successfully dye wool a deep purple colour.

 

Recent research in organic electronics has shown that Tyrian purple is an ambipolar organic semiconductor. Transistors and circuits based on this material can be produced from sublimed thin-films of the dye. The good semiconducting properties of the dye originate from strong intermolecular hydrogen bonding that reinforces pi stacking necessary for transport.

 

[…]”

 

>> I don’t know about you anons, but for me, the formula and method of dye indicates advanced knowledge. This shows the Phoenicians knew the biology of the Murex and they knew the chemical reactions of the dye, including if affected by the light. This is pushing me to believe this is ancient knowledge, like Atlantean knowledge – and not just some random discovery.

 

Like it or not this specific purple dye is called TYRIAN dye because it was believed to have originated from that City-State. The truth is, other Phoenician City-States also produced it as some point in time; and we have a confirmation Sidon did. But it seems that the dye production of Tyre was the biggest and largest one around and with time it over shadowed the other Phoenician City-States; which might have gradualy dropped/abandon the production, making Tyre mostly (Sidon a bit too) the dominant Phoenician City-State producing the purple dye. Remember the Phoenician City-States were rivals and they competed with one another over dominance and number 1 spot.

 

It is also very clear that the Phoenicians opened a lot of purple dye “facilities” all around the Med Sea, in their colonies. I think the choice = picking which colony produced purple dye was most probably due to the quantity of Murex shells and what type = color of dye, the seashells produced in that region. It was not a random selection as to where the dye facilities were opened which indicates the Phoenicians knew their environement well and utilized it for their benefit.

 

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