Business as usual.
Vigano's mission is to play "good cop".
That way,
should the liberal arm of his church "fail",
the "conservative" one survives.
Rinse,
repeat.
Stuff's been going on for centuries.
Yeah,
Caesar went to the East to rule from Constantinople.
That left Rome open for somebody else…..
They're experts at the game.
Been doing it for centuries.
Rather than blame the Papacy,
they'll blame a particular current staff.
Thus that monstrous entity has gotten away with its hideous evil,
and doing this sort of thing,
it has survived many a crisis when the piper had to be paid.
Bergolgio didn't suddenly invent Marxism.
That has been the agenda of the Papacy for decades.
Tribulation does not equate to "wrath". There are theories about the Tribulation Scripture does not teach. Paul to the Thessalonians:
3 That no man should be moved by these afflictions: for yourselves know that we are appointed thereunto.
4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.
5 For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain. 1 Thes. 3
In just a few words we have much information.
1) Believers are appointed to have tribulation.
2) They would suffer it.
3) It is a way the tempter is used to sift those of a vain faith from those of the genuine, even if the true Gospel had indeed been preached to them.
Some definitions:
A) afflictions: thlipsis:
1) a pressing, pressing together, pressure
2) metaph. oppression, affliction, tribulation, distress, straits
Paul's "affliction" also means "tribulation", which he in fact also uses. It is a "pressing", an application of "pressure", similar to the squeezing of grapes, the juice squeezed out, leaving behind the unwanted pulp.
B) tribulation: thlibo:
1) to press (as grapes), press hard upon
2) a compressed way
a) narrow straitened, contracted
3) metaph. to trouble, afflict, distress
C) tempter, tempted: peirazo:
1) to try whether a thing can be done
2) to try, make trial of, test: for the purpose of ascertaining his quality, or what he thinks, or how he will behave himself
a) in a good sense
b) in a bad sense, to test one maliciously, craftily to put to the proof his feelings or judgments
c) to try or test one's faith, virtue, character, by enticement to sin
1) to solicit to sin, to tempt
a) of the temptations of the devil
d) after the OT usage
1) of God: to inflict evils upon one in order to prove his character and the steadfastness of his faith
2) men are said to tempt God by exhibitions of distrust, as though they wished to try whether he is not justly distrusted
3) by impious or wicked conduct to test God's justice and patience, and to challenge him, as it were to give proof of his perfections.
Tribulation is a two-edged sword–it reveals who is really of the Faith and those not, the latter, those of a vain faith. Those of a vain faith may have even heard the true Gospel which their corrupt minds changed, or they may have heard a false "gospel" altogether. Those of the true Faith, when pressed down and shaken together, by that Faith, the Gift of God, cannot be made to fall away. Indeed, their suffering increases their Faith, increases their understanding of the Word, urging them to practice it, thus increasing their strength in the Lord, etc. This is what proves who is a genuine sheep and who is a goat.
The other side of this two-edged sword is from the stand point of the Tempter, Satan. Though God allows the Tempter to press together and to shake those calling themselves of the Faith, Satan's intention is entirely oppositeto get the true sheep to fall away and to destroy themto rid the world of the Word of God. It is of course impossible to destroy the gift of the Faith God gives to the sheep of His Son. Such a one shall never fall away regardless of the suffering, the Holy Ghost enabling him to go through water and through fire without falling away, even though he may be physically harmed. However, Satan has succeeded in physically killing and causing general mayhem against the Saints. It is the Tribulation of the Saints. This serves to separate the goats from among them, making the Saints even sharper instruments in God's hand, increasingly magnifying His Word, keeping the Word and Gospel being preached so that future generations of the wheat continue to be reaped. This is the "pressing down".
We should keep this in mind when we turn to the verse in the Revelation speaking of the wine press.
The reason for this is because of what Christ showed in His parable of the wheat and the tares–that they grow side by side during the entirety of the Gospel Age until His bodily return, at which point the Tribulation is at an end. The Tribulation therefore, through which Paul said the Saints "should" go, to which they have been appointed, is something occurring upon the Body of Christ and upon all calling itself "christianity" in general. Just because Christ said the wheat and the tares would grow together, this didn't mean the wheat wouldn't also go through wind, rain, storms, etc., all of which destroy the tares quickly with each generation, revealing the surviving wheat, still standing, bruised, but not fallen away, bearing fruit for the next generation.
Suit yourself, Anon.
This is a battle that's been waged for many centuries.
The current one is just part of that,
though it's likely one of the end ones.
Commendable,
except for one problem.
The entire Papacy is fake,
not just one propped up by the Magisterium.
Were he serious about "blaming the Papacy",
he would go all the way to its Satanic and bloody roots,
and disavow his vows to that entity.
The "Mary" image
(the Abomination of Desolation),
is the grownup in those vignettes,
for a reason.
Those submitting to this entity claim when she asks her son for something,
he must obey her.
> He said can't we put that aside and work together against the great evil, and I said yes.
That is his precise mission, Anon.
As to his not trying to make anyone accept it,
you should keep in mind the centuries during which the Papacy did just that,
at the point of death for not accepting it.
Many have suffered for their faithfulness to Jesus Christ,
and not wanting to take that Mark of the Beast.
Should that Queen of Heaven thingie be overlooked as he requests,
we'll be right back there.
And they are close to doing it as we speak.
All well and good.
However,
they will ignore that and send the shock troops to remove the "abused" children one is homeschooling.
No imagination needed.
The whole purpose for the Founding Fathers' freedom of religion was addressing the European's centuries long atrocities done by the Papacy demanding it be the sole church,
followed by the spat between the king of England and the Papacy,
which resulted in the English version of Catholic lite.
Don't think for a second,
that were there influential Catholics taking the side of the Patriots in that day,
that they didn't have a nefarious mission to immediately set about secret sedition to weaken such a rival Protestant based nation.
For instance,
the lone Catholic signer of the Declaration of Independence was already well on his way with the next mission:
He was the most prolific owner of slaves.
He also said when He sends the enemy against that nation,
it is because they are in need of repentance of their idolatry.
The first step to asking for help,
is to ask God to grant us such repentance,
then the rest will fall into place.
Actually, Anon,
she was both.
It was a fertility rite for a king to couple with his mother,
as she played the part of the QUEEN OF HEAVEN,
and he the god.
Every son of a king was believed to be a reincarnation of his father,
so his mother would also be his wife.
The whole point was to point out those in disobedience to God.
For instance,
the man refounding Jericho after God had it destroyed,
was defying God.
The fig tree represented the unbelieving from among the Jews who had heard Moses promise that God would send His "prophet".
All the things Jesus did,
was precisely spelled out by the Prophets long ago.
The unbelievers had God's Word,
but ignored it and demanded they had no king but Caesar.
But that's the whole point.
The disinformation Papists are not really "working together".
They are playing the good guy to get past this should they fail,
so they can go to the next subversive mission.
In fact,
we are in this mess because of them.
He didn't get into his position for bucking his Boss.
He is not fighting the Beast system.
The Papacy is central to it.
Were he serious about fighting the Beast,
he would point to the source of its power:
the Antichrist is inhabited by the Dragon,
and that Man of Sin is the very Papacy,
no matter who sits on its seat.
There will be no "shaking" afterward.
We already know the outcome,
and the False Prophet will be cast alive into the Lake of Fire,
all of them who ever were that prophet in that seat.