Anonymous ID: fbefc2 Jan. 2, 2022, 6:12 a.m. No.15295155   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>5180

>>15295143

no that would be different, and evil. This on the other hand would benefit people. The constitution did not originally give everyone the right to vote that was a push over the last century. Not everyone should vote, a bunch do not because they are already disenfranchised as well. We have to start thinking outside of the box. The nation at least the US can not go back to the way it was. Social credit score would be tied to other things in life. This would only be tied to voting and would need a constitutional overhaul which is needed anyways.

Anonymous ID: fbefc2 Jan. 2, 2022, 6:20 a.m. No.15295171   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>5247

>>15295159

The problem i think with only property owners is it does cut out people from participating who do have an interest but do not have the financial ability to buy land or own stores. American born only i can swing with that. But when Kennedy set up the Peace Corps this could be utilized in a way similar to the national guard. Still american born only but expand that idea to help build things or help the communities. Give the people an idea of civic pride they are lacking. Property owners is just not broad enough. I think the American Born only could be interesting, but that rules out immigrants who did it the right way. Depends on if either criminal party gives the illegals a way in to the system. Service guaranteeing citizenship pushes for all those things to come into play. Back in the day civil war, they used to draft irish immigrants right into the war. Serve your new nation. This is not cut and dry but it does need to be talked about at some level. Plus i think it could help run down communities and help with the crime rates also if the young people knew they were fighting for their homes, yes always outliers but we build up not down.

Anonymous ID: fbefc2 Jan. 2, 2022, 6:24 a.m. No.15295176   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>5210 >>5247

>>15295161

because i think it was tied into fascism. Never read the books but i really like the movie and the idea. Put two years minimum into a Peace Corp idea, or maybe 4 for that 2 for real military and you can vote. Not tied to anything else maybe college is cheaper or something which is already done through things like the GI Grants program. Just think we can never go back to the way it was, not everyone deserves a vote i think we can agree on that, how that is determined is the issue. There needs to be some leeway and not cut and dry property owners. Look how many property owners are illegal families or at least not native who have been given small business loans that natural citizens were not able to get to open a gas station or something like that. Needs to be a different angle than that. Other wise american citizens get shut out of the process because of liberal laws.

Anonymous ID: fbefc2 Jan. 2, 2022, 6:32 a.m. No.15295198   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>5223 >>5295

>>15295180

and that is why i suggested something like the peace corp, but remake it so its like a domestic peace corp. Build community gardens or hell just help in homeless shelters. Doctors serve in poor communities as well. Therapists hell they are really needed, think how much of the homelessness problem is a mental health problem.

Anonymous ID: fbefc2 Jan. 2, 2022, 6:41 a.m. No.15295231   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>5260 >>5267

>>15295210

it is not a perfect solution but i don't see you thinking of anything better. There will always be those with differing thoughts on how this should be run. Those also who seek to undermine it. But if we are to have anything less than a King, solutions have to be made in order to include the most people potentially. Giving it away as a right is the problem always has been. Making voting a privilege is the only solution.

 

>>15295223

i am not opposed to that idea either..make it like jury duty. I honestly like the concept and have thought that myself a few times. Make it something you do not want to really have to do where you can not get rewarded or richer for doing it. The house of Representatives at the very least should do that. No one in there really represents the people only themselves they are still richer than most people in america combined.

Anonymous ID: fbefc2 Jan. 2, 2022, 6:58 a.m. No.15295303   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>15295260

also not wrong. In the military they put people through psych screenings, perhaps something similar especially since these ware the people sending others to die for their wars. vetting was supposed to be the voting but that has failed. I also will add that they can not be allowed to lie and not be considered criminals on the floor like Pencil Neck has done time and time again with out punishment.

 

>>15295277

you are also not wrong. WE still need to be able to have discussions with people who have differing thoughts on how things should be done, we need debate. So we have to parse the language a bit more, there has to be a way to balance all these ideas out so we can have robust debate and honesty put back into our governmental bodies.

Anonymous ID: fbefc2 Jan. 2, 2022, 7:01 a.m. No.15295322   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>5362

>>15295270

so how much property does china own. Do they get to influence our elections just because they have bought all the farmland?

 

>>15295300

well how about we all agree, Duel Citizenship's will not be allowed. Start there. Although i think the marxist ideas should be kicked out alsoโ€ฆbut i also hate the idea of loyalty tests. Duel Citizenships are a good starting place though.

Anonymous ID: fbefc2 Jan. 2, 2022, 7:17 a.m. No.15295378   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>15295362

i don't personally mind your tracking on that. But free speech would protect cancerous ideologies. The other side would still try to play the democrazy card and say that they have a right to serve also, i see potential court cases that way. I don't think we can legislate morality or keep them out they would just become more subversive like that crenshaw faggot. They would hide more. WE need to change the minds which then changes the morality. I just do not see how we can keep them from running at the very least, just seems a little too draconian.