Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 12:06 a.m. No.15389232   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9257 >>9300 >>9330 >>9423 >>9444 >>9588 >>9625 >>9895

LB

>>15389074

>>>15389021 (You)

 

>> (not just weird circumstantial shit)

 

>Welcome to class.

 

>There are no coincidences. Everything is a result of machinations of will. Once you realize the purpose of the fabricated reality you are observing, then you understand the lessons imposed by the strongest of will in an effort to impart a greater understanding on all of humanity. Cliff notes? The good guys are in control.

 

The above was in answer to my question asking what evidence (not just weird circumstantial shit) there is to suggest that "the good guys are in control".

 

First, if you really want to help somebody see things from your point of view, you can skip the condescending intro. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I'm not dumb either, nor am I new to any of this.

 

Second, you did not point to any evidence; you just made some assertions that, again, I am to believe without evidence or proof. Fair enough. Paring aside vague language ("the purpose of", "the lessons imposed by", "a greater understanding"), here is the takeaway:

 

There are no coincidences because everything I see in the world is an expression of will. Those with the greatest will want to teach me something, and they are the good guys, and they are in control.

 

While I can appreciate your most basic premise of anthropophenomenology as analysis of expressions of will (all appearances in the human realms are to be taken as expressions of the will of the most powerfully willful humans), I do not believe that even the most powerfully willful humans, whether they be "good guys" or "bad guys", are omniscient or omnipotent. (I don't even believe in "good guys", for that matter. This might be a movie, but it's not an old b/w Western written for 6-year-olds, is it?)

 

Here, I'll posit a counterclaim, and I'll draw it from an ancient wisdom text from the Axial Age:

 

Those who wish to take the world and control it

I see that they cannot succeed

The world is a sacred instrument

One cannot control it

The one who controls it will fail

The one who grasps it will lose

 

โ€“Tao Te Ching, Ch. 29

 

From that same text, if there really are "good guys" who are figuratively "in control", and there really is "The Plan", then I would assume the planners are familiar with, and working from, the following:

 

The highest rulers, people do not know they have them

The next level, people love them and praise them

The next level, people fear them

The next level, people despise them

If the rulers' trust is insufficient

Have no trust in them

Proceeding calmly, valuing their words

Task accomplished, matter settled

The people all say, "We did it naturally"

 

โ€“Tao Te Ching, Ch. 17

 

At age 50, I am looking at all of this unfold with one eyeball always trained on the horrors of the previous century. I don't easily allow myself to believe that this shakes out well for us just because I want it to, or because some heroic narrative soothes my bad feels. Thanks for your answer, though.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 12:22 a.m. No.15389271   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9277 >>9292 >>9301

12 minutes into Trump speech so far. Nutshell:

 

"Here are all the reasons our country is in a free fall toward destruction as a result of my walking away from the stolen election."

 

I can't wait to hear him start telling us that the solution is to voat moar.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 1:15 a.m. No.15389405   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9452 >>9458 >>9601

>>15389376

>My biggest fear is that there is only one thing that will stop them.

 

There is a distinction to be made between violence and force. As far as I'm concerned, violating natural rights is violence. Force is what one both rightfully and righteously uses to defend oneself (and others who can't defend themselves) against violence. This is the way the world has always been. What use is there in being afraid of it?

 

>And I know there are those who are banking on it going that way.

 

Who are they, and how is it you know of their existence?

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 1:51 a.m. No.15389470   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9490

>>15389452

>widespread, kinetic civil warfare

 

I don't imagine that would be necessary, anon.

 

>They are everyone from CCP to George Soros. That our country is hated by certain entities is a given. Civil war would obviously serve their interests. Whether MAGA prevailed in it or not.

 

Expected answers. But didn't want to assume. As far as how it would serve their interests โ€ฆ hm. Far less would it serve their interests, I'd say, than a continual spiraling into tyranny without serious (if necessary forceful) backlash.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 2:26 a.m. No.15389524   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9573 >>9601

>>15389458

That was a good read. I like J. Krishnamurti and was already familiar with the ideas and concepts. I think the writer mischaracterizes force. Violence is not a subset of force, because violence does not necessarily involve the use of force. Force is a type of action in the material world. This idea of Power is very good, but we shouldn't let it negate the reality and importance of acting in the physical. Force can be an expression of Power. Which brings me toโ€ฆ

 

>>15389490

>If those people cam to my door, there would be bloodshed if they persisted.

 

As there should be, must be. And if enough examples are made of the goons deployed on such errands, with today's ubiquity of cell cams and soc media, the bloodshed need not become widespread.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 2:46 a.m. No.15389552   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>15389543

Citing covid, they exaggerate its danger.

 

>And that book is gay.

 

That book is useful for opening minds. You can show people the agenda from the horses' mouths: that they, as individuals, are to be RESET, like malfunctioning robots.

 

I know, it takes a lot of real world experience to develop a reliable ability to form realistic estimations of one's opponents. Perspective comes with time. But don't worry, adolescence doesn't last forever, even though I know it must sometimes feel that way.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 3:46 a.m. No.15389630   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9648

>>15389588

> How many coinkydinks before it's mathematical impossible? And I'm not trying to dig on you, just wondering what boat you're floating in on.

 

I'm not convinced that Q isn't a pacification op. I'm not a "hivemind" type, not a groupie. I question everything, including the ultimate aims of "Q". How's that for starters?

 

>Quote shit I never heard of.

 

What does the fact that you never heard of it have to do with anything?

 

>you do not see the forest through the trees.

 

I admit that might be true. But so far, I have not seen a description of the forest that convinces me of its accuracy. You wanna try?

 

>I can't ever try to disbelieve that there is no plan.

 

A triple-negative sentence that literally means, "I can't ever try to believe that there is a plan."

 

There is vanishingly little that I believe.

 

>You must not be spiritual and have no faith in you for it takes faith.

 

You must be highly presumptuous. Faith is often and easily misplaced. Our entire current predicament is predicated on misplaced faith.

 

>What might you tell us you see happening and what will happen to the world in you view???

 

Everything that is happening, I foresaw over a decade ago.

 

If the great resetters get their way, at the end of it all there will be restaurants whose kitchens are abortion clinics. Have a nice day.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 3:53 a.m. No.15389639   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>15389625

I don't pretend to have all the answers, and I don't give a fuck about your education level. The way you whip out your GED, I'd say it's you who has an issue with it. I've known trade workers that made my college professors look like the retards that they were. I'm just not so easily convinced as you are that an obvious and admitted psyop is ultimately benevolent. That is all.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 4:12 a.m. No.15389672   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9709

>>15389619

Now is a good time to wean off all things processed. The fewer chemical and synthetic ingredients, the better. Consider that jabs are not the only vector. Anon eats only about one meal a day, and menu items tend toward the elemental and primitive. With proper mindset and understanding, two eggs, a bowl of spinach, and a banana can go a very long way. And we might be heading into times when minimalism and efficiency in one's dietary habits become important for survival.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 4:39 a.m. No.15389729   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9755 >>9762

>>15389708

>You sound pretty smart(assed) ;^) and would be a big contribution to the effort. If so worried it's a headfake, do something. Don't bring a complaint just to whine, come with solutions also.

 

I've already paid heavily in this war. Have done things I can hardly in retrospect believe that I actually did. I'm retired from the kind of active duty that landed me in jail 'cause I'm in a foreign land where one more jail strike gets me deported and I'm too old to go home. Now I pray and meditate and shitpost to provoke thought, and make memetic contributions that pop up here and there all the time. Smartassed for sure. Smart, not so much, but always trying to get smarter. If I come off as whining, not sure if that's on me or on you. I don't feel whiney. I probably do bellow too much. God bless you anon.

 

o7

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 5:09 a.m. No.15389780   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9806 >>9817

>>15389755

Points all well taken, and thank you for reiterating them. I am just cantankerous as fuck and I loathe and despise these cancerous cockroaches with all my being. Just the sight of fake potato, the sound of his voice, it's the same feeling I'd get watching a teenage punk steal a purse from an old lady in a wheelchair. Not a good analogy, but the same rage. It pisses me off no end how overwhelmingly we won 2020, and those motherfuckers run around acting like they won, and now classifying us as "domestic terrorists" (that wasn't on your victory list btw) for having the temerity to disagree. I understand the information war in theory, but will admit that I fail to really see how meme making and shitposting are going to defeat an ancient death cult that sets all the rules and controls entire nations and economies with its time-tested sorcery. Call me pessimistic if you will. I call it conservative abstinence from hopium consumption. But thank you for your words of positivity and optimism. I too am certainly in need of other anons' corrections from time to time.

 

o7

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 5:13 a.m. No.15389791   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9799 >>9802

>>15389760

>Anons know that Elon Musk/SpaceX has been an essential part of the Plan all along.

 

This anon made this meme, but did not know such a thing about Musk. Had pretty much looked at Starlink as a potential Skynet. Would you be so kind as to elucidate? Please and thank you.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 5:26 a.m. No.15389812   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>9824 >>9857

>>15389802

Thank you for your very rational and considerate answer. I have trust issues. By my own admission, an extremely paranoid mindset. It's almost an operational assumption with me that the wealthiest man on the planet must perforce be "in on" the conspiracy to enslave us all. I don't see how that logic could be wrong, but at least you present compelling data points. o7

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 5:29 a.m. No.15389818   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>15389806

Thank you for your kind and considerate answer. I am aware of your logic, though not convinced of it. But I respect it, and I hope it's true, and I keep that hope in my back pocket when I make memes. God bless you.

Anonymous ID: 6b63e1 Jan. 16, 2022, 5:58 a.m. No.15389900   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>15389857

Thank you for your considerate advice. I have seen Patel Patriot's list of winning points. It helps for a few minutes, until I see potato running around again, and I just have a hard time embracing the suck. Maybe it's just all the hard knocks and the knowledge of history and human nature. I find it extremely difficult to believe in people and embrace hope. I meant to stop posting because I posted too much this bread, but wanted to answer you on this. I've appreciated all you anons who indulged my pessimism on this bread and genuinely tried to shake my perspective. Non-homoerotic love to all of you and yours.