>>1547516

Not true. CA is actually a castle doctrine state. It does require, though, if you actively know a person is not a threat, that you do not shoot them regardless. So for example I had a blacked out drunk neighbor try to open my door at like 4pm after NFL games were done. He was obviously a complete wobbly stumbling wreck, and in this case had he somehow opened the door I would be bound to proportional force unless in fear of my life.

However, absent this kind of thing it’s castle doctrine. A shit ton of wealthy people live here, you think they’re not going to shoot intruders?

Another difference with places like TX is that you cannot use deadly force to protect property outside your house.

>>1547619

No, TX and other more “wild west” states with historical problems with cattle rustling can allow deadly force to prevent property loss. It’s based on theories that if someone in a very rural area takes your stuff, it may end up taking your life as well.

Generally speakng, according to my lawyer, around the country (except in those states I mentioned above) proportional force is standard for property outside the home. Reason is, there is a presumption of implied bodily harm when an intruder breaks into an occupied dwelling, even if technically according to them they’re there to merely take your TV. Point is YOU have no way of knowing they’re not there to kill you all.

Lawyer says a gun should always be coupled with pepper spray so you have something proportional to use in cases like a tweaker in your car or a blacked out neighbor (unarmed, daytime) breaking your front window, etc.

>>1547694

Of course not. Everyone’s lawyer should be them +15 years or so, unless you’re old as fuck and then it should be -15 years or so. Not a (((chosen))), so would never hire one, particularly in circumstances involving very important matters.

If someone is shooting up heroin and taking a shit on your lawn, what are you going to do, shoot them? Or give em a bit of a spray and nobody can prove shit. Some junkie ranting about getting pepper sprayed? Why would the cops ever give a fuck?

>>1547734

Would probably have been better to empty a pepper spray into his eyeballs. Close quarters with guns are no joke, you could have have been shot with your gun. Best to spray, give loud orders to back away, then obviously if necessary, draw and shoot, but you could have been nailed for brandishing.

>>1547766

A quick 911 with “someone is screaming and trying to force entry, please come quickly, gotta go” followed by a pepper spray would have resulted in a drunk and disorderly at minimum for them plus the seeds of a restraining order should you so choose. Once shit was under control, stash the glock and politely decline to let any cops inside. Even if they show up and you have it holstered it’s all good because reasonable people only call 911 when frightened for their safety.

In some states there is a legal theory that more or less allows civilians to act in leiu of law enforcement in the time between when they notify LE and when they arrive. That difference may only exist in some “should we charge him?” prosecuting for dummies book at the local station, and this can save your ass completely. Again, not a lawyer, not advice, etc, but I did spend 2 full hours talking through this shit with my actual criminal defense lawyer I retain and I’d say if you can afford it it’s worth it so you can work through scenarios you fear the most or understand the least.