Anonymous ID: b9af44 May 27, 2018, 10:18 p.m. No.1564059   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4173 >>4283 >>4383

>>1562710

>America is not a Christian nation.

>Church and state are separate.

>Nobody is required to believe in a silly tribal god and a spooky devil to be American

 

While I can certainly appreciate this anon's sentiments, I would remind agnostics and atheists that there are very important non-religious reasons that we should respect and value the story of Christ.

 

After all, Christ demonstrated that one need NOT "walk on water" to do what is RIGHT in the world.

 

For the past 2000 years, Christ represents the composite hero of the West as the "Truthful Individual" who acts upon the Truth.

 

“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” – John 8:32 KJV

 

In the earliest Christian manuscripts, the Greek word for "Christ" was "Chrēstós”, which means useful, benevolent, or “kind one."

If we look past the religious packaging, we see that Christ’s most important teachings to humanity were as follows:

 

1) Christ taught us to treat others as we would expect to be treated (the "Golden Rule").

2) Christ exposed the hypocrisy of the scribes and Pharisees.

3) Christ exposed the corruption of the "money changers."

4) Christ’s path to the Truth was by solitary quiet discernment ("Prayer").

5) Christ voluntarily accepted suffering as a prerequisite for "being" and in doing so transcended his own mortality.

6) Christ used free will to refuse, not only sinful temptations, but also conscription by “the Authorities” to commit violence against the innocent.

 

These mythological truths are factual whether you believe or not in God and/or Christ as a historical figure.

This is not a religious statement, but rather one based on logic and reason (logos).

The existence of organized religion and "the State" itself depend on obscuring these fundamental Truths.

 

Though rarely acknowledged, the story of Christ is the foundation upon which Western Culture was built and continues to exist.

Anonymous ID: b9af44 May 27, 2018, 11:21 p.m. No.1564467   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4503

>>1564173

>There is a legal reason we need God in the US.

>>1564314

>^^^ TOTALLY GETS IT nicely put Anon~

>>1564306

>Well said, Anon.

 

I agree and would also add that there are both legal and scientific reasons to believe in "Free Will." The legal reason is historic (see graphic).

 

Like the believe in God, regardless of whether or not we can ever objectively prove that “free will” exists, the more important scientific question is how does the belief in “free will” serve humanity in our daily lives today?

 

We now have strong empirical evidence that inducing disbelief in “free will” increases cheating (1), aggression (2), racial prejudice (3) and conformity (4), while decreasing helping behavior (2), self-control (5,6), gratitude (7) and sound judgment (8).

 

When viewed from this perspective, it should raises profound concerns about the true intentions of those who desire to convince us all that “free will” is just an illusion…

 

References

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  2. Baumeister, R. F., Masicampo, E. J., & DeWall, C. N. (2009). Prosocial benefits of feeling free: Disbelief in free will increases aggression and reduces helpfulness. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 35, 260–268.

  3. Zhao X, Liu L, Zhang X-x, Shi J-x, Huang Z-w (2014) The Effect of Belief in Free Will on Prejudice. PLoS ONE 9(3): e91572.

  4. Alquist, J. L., Ainsworth, S. E., & Baumeister, R. F. (2013). Determined to conform: Disbelief in free will increases conformity. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, 49, 80–86.

  5. Rigoni, D., Kuhn, S., Gaudino, G., Sartori, G., & Brass, M. (2012). Reducing self-control by weakening belief in free will. Consciousness and Condition, 21, 1482–1490.

  6. Rigoni, D., Kuhn, S., Sartori, G., & Brass, M. (2011). Inducing disbelief in free will alters brain correlates of preconscious motor preparation: The brain minds whether we believe in free will or not. Psychological Science, 22(5), 613–618.

  7. MacKenzie, M.J., K.D. Vohs, and R.F. Baumeister, (2014) You Didn't Have to Do That: Belief in Free Will Promotes Gratitude. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 40(11): p. 1423-1434.

  8. Rigoni, D., Wilquin, H., Brass, M., & Burle, B. (2013). When errors do not matter: Weakening belief in intentional control impairs cognitive reaction to errors. Cognition, 127, 264–269.