Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 19, 2022, 10:10 p.m. No.15902651   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2692 >>2768 >>2946 >>3223 >>3234

Hey all, reaching out for comment. Before I publish my hitpiece. LOL

 

 

Theory:

 

Trump is Shadow President

 

If Trump is president, then either the events that have occurred during Biden's residency are what Trump wants, or Biden is able to do things as a fake president that Trump does not want, or Trump is not the one making the decisions.

 

If Trump is still president, for instance, Biden's handling of Ukraine, Afghanistan, and covid are really Trump's decisions and responsibility. Consistency dictates that Trump supporters who accept the shadow president theory criticize their man for what appears to be actions by Biden, or else it must be acknowledged that Trump is not in charge. Of course consistency also dictates that they find all shadow presidencies and fake elections / deep state continuity / soft transition plan coups to be acceptable, not just those perpetrated by their favorite guy. Otherwise, they find themselves in the difficult position of defending a theory that Trump is both a shadow president and a puppet president simultaneously.

 

A close look at the theories shows that it is understandable why people are considering them. There are strange occurrences that are difficult to explain at first glance. Biden has filmed press conferences from a fake White House production set. There are certain executive orders that Biden has repealed, and others he has not repealed, that do not seem to match what the elites, Democrats, or the Biden Crime syndicate would want. Biden has made many weird public statements beyond gaffes, including of course the famous cornpop which gave all popcorn munchers quite the data point, and his recent mentioning of blackmail. Qanon posts are easily used to show coincidences that are not easily proven to be random as opposed to indicative of pre-knowledge. Devolution theories are anything but superficial and poorly thought out.

 

Perhaps there are only those who manufacture 'evidence' for these theories, aiming for anything fictional but plausible enough, while simultaneously achieving their own agenda. The 'Trump as Savior' trope scratches a bunch of itches for a lot of people in America, and so it is a way to increase clicks. Same model as flat earthers - a whole community lighting up the internet because everyone loves an 'everything I know is wrong' story - not necessarily because it's a true story. That would occur whether the theory is true or false, and so existence of that is not evidence either way.

 

One might accept the premise that Trump is sitting President, but reject that 'Patriots are in Control' even of the executive branch of the U.S. It is difficult to imagine a cogent and consistent explanation of how that could be the case. It does, however, allow one to attribute individual events to their idea of good guys and bad guys on a case-by-case basis. This approach fails falsifiability in that the adopter of the theory can claim anything they do not like to be Biden's fault, so long as it cannot be proven otherwise, and keep the credit for anything good for their own favorite. This approach also bears a seemingly insurmountable burden of proof, for the implications of a fake presidency are wide.

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 19, 2022, 11:22 p.m. No.15902942   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2954 >>3036

>>15902929

 

This for instance. 'Think subgroup.'

 

Apply logic.

 

The poster that appears to be using Q's tripcode after the 8kun server supplies the page for me chooses not to tell me what N stands for. Why?

 

National security I think is what I have heard before. Does that hold water? Is there any good reason?

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 19, 2022, 11:40 p.m. No.15903016   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>15903006

Ooh that's good, thanks. Yea I was in tunnelvision about that. But wasn't this a direct response to an ask or a back and forth about n=nazi? also I have forgotten or don't know why it can't just stand for 'New'

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 19, 2022, 11:41 p.m. No.15903021   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>15903015

Yea well

 

sub group

 

Nimitz

 

I mean it could be anything. That's why it's dumb not to just be clear. So why not be clear?

 

  • so that anons don't know, as was said above

  • national security / plausible deniability

  • manipulation / wild goose chase

 

are there others?

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 20, 2022, 12:12 a.m. No.15903188   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>15903159

Not to diminish or imply lack of appreciation for an excellent point, but to point out,

 

It can be - but it's also used in storytelling, so maybe it's a matter of degree.

 

Conceivable that consciously leveraging mystery could be benevolent and wise, if the time it takes the listener to solve the mystery does not have implications over the course of events in question, i.e. lives in the balance.

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 20, 2022, 12:30 a.m. No.15903225   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3269

>>15903223

That falls under 'Trump is not the one making decisions'. Hit piece was tongue in cheek understanding that some would kneejerk react in response to put me in a box for daring to question groupthink.

 

As have you

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 20, 2022, 12:39 a.m. No.15903245   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>15903234

To me that's not an out though - it's the same thing. If I believe it's all faked / scripted / preplanned, and that's ok with me - and I even endorse / root for this plan - then I necessarily endorse all things happening. All suffering. Can't have it both ways.

 

However, that's black and white / extreme ends thinking. It's in the middle.

 

Some public facing information is scripted. Some powwer is in the hands of the president. Some ways of faking an election have at least been war-gamed. Some theories are better than others.

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 20, 2022, 12:46 a.m. No.15903259   🗄️.is 🔗kun

And another dam thing

 

Why are people doing a bunch of things about vaccines OTHER than just repeating

 

One Paragraph That Explains How We Know 100% That Covid Vaxx Does More Harm Than Good

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 20, 2022, 12:52 a.m. No.15903270   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3283

>>15903269

conceded, I should rephrase

 

I am steelmanning the theoretical argument that some make. In that argument, they are blind to what you have highlighted - that a president can't be a puppet in one administration and an all-knowing all-seeing all-powerful one in the next, depending on how liked

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 20, 2022, 12:59 a.m. No.15903280   🗄️.is 🔗kun

I won't accept that the best explanation is the tired old trope that there are different rules in war.

 

That's kissinger shit

Anonymous ID: 5874cc March 20, 2022, 1:51 a.m. No.15903335   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Perhaps a more damaging form of black and white thinking is moving with assumptions that allow for conjecture in the way of 'is q good' 'is q bad' rather than the obvious fallibility if human, or the more responsible(?) default assumption that each q post came from a different source, each of which were written in a google doc accessible to 100 different people than any other post