Anonymous ID: 8f4312 April 3, 2022, 7:24 a.m. No.16003410   🗄️.is 🔗kun

Obscure

 

They say that there are but 64 shamans in toto, not 63 but 64, not 65 but 64 shamans and each is represented by a hexagram composed of two trigram , as described in the 'ching.

 

However, a wise student will confirm even common assumptions.

 

In a few versions of the Yijing, there are references to the ideograms, that I assume are the older characters which are the names of - or represent - the hexagrams. Among authors who reference these are LiSe 'Calling Crane' Heyboer, Stephen Karcher, Alfred Huang, and Hilary Barrett.

 

For example, for Hex. 21, called 'Bitiing Through' (among others names/titles), LiSe describes the old 'ideogram':

 

The character (biting) is composed of bamboo (1), shaman (3) and mouth (4). Shaman + bamboo is oracle-consulting with yarrow stalks. Shaman is work (2) + two people. (And ….)

 

KÈ, … is composed of mouth (4) dish (6) and a lid or a 'closer' (10). So 7 is a dish with lid. The lid … was originally a drawing of a man with a ball between his legs and might have meant castrate: remove, leave, depart, close.​

 

… to me these characters / ideograms don't really look like the Chinese characters/script which I usually see, but instead look like characters that are no longer used - perhaps from a pre-Yi time of oracle bone divination?

 

So, I'm wondering about the source(s) of these older characters, glyphs, writing ….? Where do they come from? Are these the sources for the names/titles of the hexagrams? How is it we have come to associate them with the Yi (we are now familiar with)? ….?

 

https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/index.php?threads/questions-about-the-ideograms-old-characters.29392/