Apologies. We're both supporting the same concept, differently. I was expanding on your claim.
There is no "proof" of a Creator
There is math that explains patterns and sequences
The math fails at -13.8B years
Our "solar system" = "the heavens and the earth" are only ~4.5B years old.
Entire Galaxies, Star Systems, and Planets have existed and ceased to exist prior to the creation of Earth…why would the Creator of the Universe fail to mention that in his handy little guide?
SECONDED
Did you miss the multiple Crusades, the Witch Trials, the Inquisitions, the slaughter of the Templars, the slaughter of the Huguenots, the wars in Ireland between Catholic and Protestant…
The killing was sold as "holy" to gain public approval
The brainwashing of the church has always been used to support the greedy agenda of the rulers, while pacifying the masses. That's the point of religion.
My parents created me. No "Supernatural" forces were at work.
Right, we can.
I can honestly saw, "I don't know"
You claim "God" did, but can't prove it honestly, so you "don't know" either
Universe is 13.8B years old
Earth is 4.5B years old
Earth only inhabitable for last 2B years
Why doesn't your "Holy Book" talk about what happened for the first 11B years of the Universe?
Why does your "Holy Book" lead people to believe that Mesopotamia was the "cradle of civilization" when the civilization at Goebekli Tepe is thousands of years older?
If your God "wrote" the Bible, he is a shitty author with gads of plot holes and unexplained shit. Thankfully we have some scientists willing to shed their "because God" supernatural explanations and search for the Truth.
Hey, "God" is the one who had his only kid tortured and murdered, take it up with "Him".
Observable evidence, for which "God" has none.
How do we know the age of the Universe and the Earth?
Scientists say that the Earth is 4.6 billion years old while the universe is somewhere from 10 to 20 billion years old. Is it true that in the '60s scientists spotted background radiation that they thought to be remnants of the Big Bang? If this is the evidence that we base the Big Bang theory on, can the universe be older than 10 to 20 billion years, even though we have not seen any evidence of it? Also, why exactly are we sure that the Earth is 4.6 billion years old? Is the quantity 10 to 20 billion years commonly accepted today because of evidence only?
It is indeed true that scientists have known about the background radiation (commonly known as the Cosmic Microwave Background) since the early 60s. It was first discovered quite by accident by Penzias and Wilson working at Bell Labs, who detected it as an unexplainable interference in their precision radio equipment. When people finally figured out exactly what it was they were seeing, they won the Nobel Prize for their discovery. Only a few years before, George Gamow had predicted that if the Big Bang theory were correct, we should observe just such a background radiation. The CMB is not the only evidence in favor of the Big Bang, but it is one of the most important. It is a natural consequence of the theory, and is pretty unexplainable in steady-state cosmology.
The 15-20 billion year number comes not from the CMB, but rather predominantly from measurements of nearby and distant galaxies, particularly their rates of expansion away from us. We find that the distance to a galaxy is proportional to its recessional velocity. The constant of proportionality is the Hubble Constant, H, which turns out to be (approximately) the reciprocal of the age of the universe. So we measure the age by measuring recessional velocities. T = 1/H is only true, however, if the universe is not significantly accelerating or decelerating its expansion rate. If the rate of expansion is rapidly accelerating, the universe may be older than 1/H = 15 billion years, give or take. Such an acceleration would be caused by a large value of the Cosmological Constant, a sort of anti-gravity force predicted by General Relativity. There is some evidence that this might be the case.
So finally, yes, the age of the universe, being based on the empirical determination of H, is based on the observed evidence.
The age of the Solar System (including the Earth), on the other hand, is measured by the radioactive decay of certain isotopes in rocks and meteorites. These isotopes (principally Potassium and Uranium) were created with the solar system. By measuring how much has decayed, we can very accurately determine how long it's been since they (and the rest of the solar system) were formed. The oldest rocks on Earth have been destroyed by plate tectonics, so to get the age of the solar system, we turn to meteorites instead. The oldest such meteorites we have found suggest the age of their formation, and thus the age of the solar system, to be 4.568 Billion years.
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/36-our-solar-system/the-earth/general-questions/19-how-do-we-know-the-age-of-the-universe-and-the-earth-intermediate
Humans
The Cretans get credit for creating coinage during the Lydian Empire circa 600 B.C.
But pieces of metal, jewels, shells, and other "rare" objects were used as "money" over 7K years ago…well before "The Jews" invented their origin story.
>The Gematria of the Genesis indicates ~16.xB years for this current universe we are in.
Prove it.
Muslims and Christians are 2nd Class Jews, in subjugated religions created by Jews.
Then God is Murder, Rape, Slavery, Torture. If "He" is everything, then he's gets credit for everything, and nothing is un-Godly.
Believer is what?
I say, believing in "Telling the Truth"
Jews are known liars, hagglers, swindlers, and thieves, as is permissible to do to "Gentiles" in their "Religion"
Hence the dichotomy
Everything that makes you blindly accept that "The King" can kill an innocent man and call it "God's Will" while society shrugs and agrees.
From a deist perspective (a creator who doesn't supernaturally interact) I would agree with you. But all the the Theist arguments fail when they start giving attributes to "god" beyond the initial creation.
If god is "all knowing" then he can't change anything, because he knew he would change things, and that wouldn't be a change
If god is only "good" then he isn't responsible for "bad" even though he created everything, including "bad".
deism theism
Death is coming for you too, anon, and all your friends and family as well. Have a toke and relax, it's 4/20.
Why genocide?
Why not just wake them up?
Oh, Because you're asleep too, just in a different dream
Truth beats a lie, always
You can't "kill" a bad argument
You have to beat it with a better argument
Me too. I fell for the hopium of The Great Deciever, but his lies piled up, and the truth exposed him as just another con-artist with a tremendous marketing team. His fake feud with FAKENEWS becomes more obvious when they prop up HIS narrative, when it serves the greater purpose of narrative control.
For sure.
Though I am ignorant of the full implications
I think I'd rather be an American State National than a US Citizen…