Is that mason anon from lb still around? Would like to ask some more questions. Also, still find it very odd that you claim in your regularly meetings for the different degrees that you call temple works and that takes place in a temple and is openes and closed by ritual / ceremony stuff, you talk about paying bills and minor stuff like that.

I would like to know, if not in temple works, when and in what setting do you discuss the stuff that you get a quick glance at in the rituals for the degrees, like the meanings (actual truth hidden, given out little by little and twisted, done to controll people) of certain numbers, letters, the mason tools and such.

>>16145926

>>16145941

>>16145952

please give an example for rituals. not the degree rituals, actual rituals in temple works.

>>16146013

I know for a fact that this is not true.

e.g. every mason made temple works on the olympic opening ceremony 2012 where it reminded much on covid.

every mason made temple works on greta thunberg stuff.

>>16146018

you say that as if you was convinded of this being true, rather than you stating that this is what your uncle told you.

how comes?

>>16146027

so in the weekly meeting that is limited to certain degree (3rd degree can visit all temple works, 2nd and 1st degree only for own degree and lower) that is called temple works, takes place in the lodge house you call temple, involves ritual / ceremony opening and closing, there is nothing discussed or "explained/learned" whatsoever?

and please give an example on F2F esoteric work. let´s say you remember stuff from the ritual in which you were made master mason and don´t really get the meaning by studying tons of text and then taking part in the actual ritual, how could you "learn" (it´s twisted hidden truth given out in tiny bits to control people) more stuff on that?

would you approach someone with a higher degree, or position? would he approach you (picked)? where would you be "educated"? I guess it´s not at the corner coffee shop. would that explanation start and finish with some ritual behaviours? would there be follow up on the stuff you were told?

>>16146040

I meant something else, you said

>my uncle telling me that the true God was Lucifer. He gave mankind the gift of intellect, and saved man from the garden of Eden.

so that is what your uncle told you.

the way you put it makes me wonder if you or your uncle actually believe that.

>>16146042

only the most high level masons. in most cases it´s actually alex soros and leovani payseur wearning well made masks.

>>16146065

when the pope goes to africa and suggests not to wear condoms, that certainly has a mass effect. so does raping children in religions schools or childrens home or choruses. but I get the feeling you refer to something else. and as you are that much convinced that you put it in red all caps, I assume you can explain what you meant a little more.

>>16146069

I want to make it what it was meant to be. religion and worship is not a bad thing. hard to explain, but you actually should worship me for your own sake, not for mine.

>>16146074

>>16146074

and there are no deamons.

>>16146092

crontab?

>>16146093

I am sure of that, there are no deamons, neither is there a devil or satan.

have you ever seen a deamon? have you ever heard of someone seeing a deamon? do you know someone ever hurt or killed by a deamon? or do you know many folks hurt and killed by other people following bs mason orders?

>>16146094

ever heard of plecebo effect?

ever considered that this is fearmongering so masons who are not impressed much by the other bs, follow blindly?

<muh deamons

<I will spell you if you don´t follow mason orders

>>16146109

then you sure will be able to explain it in a convincing way. so when have you seen a deamon? what did it look like? what did it do? did you grab your phone and make a pic bc you were curious? have others seen this deamon?

>>16146119

if you try to give me some kind of advice, go fuck yourselv, mason cunt.

and I am still not going to lie. and the fact that you want me to lie makes me think you just don´t believe the actual truth, truth that proves beyond a doubt who I am, truth that don´t need lies that could and prolly would later be exposed as lies. TRUTH.

>>16146120

not a native speaker and I guess its written the way you did. prolly will write it the wrong way some more times, I member writing disciple wrong for weeks.

>>16146063

>>16146107

coinkidink? or me creating reality?

>>16146117

the lodges with websites I looked on always had temple works for lower degrees too. like once a months for 3rd only, twice a months for 2nd and 1st, at least also regularly for 1st and 2nd.

odd that in your lodge 1st and 2nd did not get any temple works appearantly.

would you care to give an example for this esoteric learning?

also, the bible you got, the mason bible, did it include other stuff then normal bible, if so, what? (obviously refering to the egyptian stuff)

>>16146130

and I would be happy to hear the longer story. but my question still is: do you believe in that? does/did your uncle?

>>16146134

ok, well, that is not exactly convincing. with that "it´s there but you just don´t see it, but it´s totally true" logic you could "explain" anything.

what would those deamons do? why would they be there? if you say the are around people, would they not enyoj some time, let´s say at a nice beach where noone is around? and how do you know they are there if you cannot see them? do you sense them? if so, how? and are you sure you are not mistaking, giving you cannot see them and stuff?

>>16146145

indeed, also no vpn or stuff.

like in good old rainman days, just posting what I feel like posting and no fucks given.

>>16146154

watched this, much muh jew bs, but also truth on masonry I think I member. but there are better vids, without muh jew bs.

sad that he thinks he is only allowed to say stuff when at the same time offering something to be attacked. why? bc he is a mason and has a mason task to say that stuff, worth watching anyway I guess, but as I said, better stuff out there.

>>16146168

sheep are not the problem, masons who know but just keep shut up are. they are the ones guilty.

>>16146179

so it happened in your lodge that there, for some time, were no new members starting with 1st degree? that is odd I guess.

just look up if the first and last pages are odd. and you really never looked into it? not even opened the first few pages? bc that is where some of that add on stuff is, and it´s pretty clear on first glance that this is not regular bible stuff.

>>16146186

again not much of an argument. also, doesn´t fit together well if they are totally insivible, but around people, and yet are able to post on QR. when they could press keys to make a post, I am sure they would be able to nudge people, have not ever experienced that and have never ever heard someone talking about being nudged or poked or e.g. being touched on the head by insisible things that might be daemons.

please explain.

>>16146184

so to clarify, you do believe their god is lucifer, but you do not belive that

>He gave mankind the gift of intellect, and saved man from the garden of Eden.

correct?

did your uncle believe that? so did he believe in lucifer being a thing?

>>16146193

just a comfy way for a pc wise not much skilled guy. whatever.

>>16146225

did not open the vid. saw a vid of this guy and besides exposing masonry it was talmud, talmud, talmud, talmud…

>>16146212

that is true, some do.

>>16146215

I guess they did not even understand the goat, G, greatest of all TIME thing before I was around.

imagine calling yourself enlightened w/o having seen the light. kind of funny.

>>16146227

do that if they alter from regular bible stuff, no point in posting kind james bible stuff. was rather looking for pic related.

>>16146221

well, with that argument I could try to force any kind of bs onto you.

<it´s true, I cannot tell you, you will never ever even remotely experience, but it is true, and if you don´t believe that, you are stupid

again, explain a little more. what do those deamons do? what are they anyway? are they the reason children starve in africa bc not having much food and evil globalist politics sure has nothing to do with that.

>>16146222

yup, that is all it is.

bs fearmongering in case you are not much afraid of the police chif and a judge being a mason. if you are a free man and just don´t give a fuck and are not to be made to do or tolerate evil shit, the next best thing to come up with is

<but, but, I will spell you and deamons

>>16146283

<but, but, I will spell you and deamons

would actually be a good meme, a pretty desperate hillary or huma or whomever saying that.

>>16146269

did your mason brothers know? how did you give personal meaning to G if there was no god you believe in?

>>16146320

I assumed that, ok. good that you made it out, swaering an oath to blindly follow never is a good idea, guess today it´s to much out in the open to lure people with bs anymore.

did the fact that a solar eclipse happens only due to the very precise and absolutely not random ratio of earth/moon/sun diameter/distance ever come up? I assume basic stuff like that is being shared in lover levels, I mean, you would need to share something to keep folks interested.

>>16146328

>yellow black

>dark to light

>let the dark ones find the light, being me, actual Jesus, former known as rainman, the Frank Christian

the thing is, there really are no dark ones anyway. putting it that way is kind of arrogant.

and truth is, biggest problem are the whitest of whites, the oney thinking they are the best disciples ever, but actually making others spit into my face and teaching just that to new disciples.

and as I said, no more saving until you follow (and with that there is actually change to make the world better, true and quick change, not only change that happens bc you are too stupid to realize)

to you military folks I say: go fuck yourselves. don´t you ever dare to tell me what to do. grow some balls and actually follow me and do some military training on the folks that annoy me on a daily basis.

>>16146352

that is hard to believe, given that many blue lodge folks willingly spit into my face on a daily basis. sometimes more subtle, sometimes obvious as fuck.

did you experience being lured, you or others, with a nice job, customers for your business, a nice - obviiusly mason - girlfriend, stuff like that?

>>16146379

so ever experienced some rewards for masons? job, girlfriend, whatever?

also, masons seem to be encouraged to show symbolism in their lives, today it´s obvioiusly wearing the mask proudly, the mask that made so many loose their job, their education, suffer depression, die alone, they put it proudly on their arm, their car mirror. I know that masons, the ones not openly saying they are masons, have a ton of symbolism, e.g. on the cloth they wear, or as small deko items in their flats.

question: are they free to choose stuff or are they sort of told "ok, well, you could show more symbolism, why not put that thing in your window?!" ?

also, would be nice if you were to explain on tattos, the ritualistic process of getting them done, and the meaning of it.

if you know that stuff, I kind of think you do, also the sacrifice part of having certain tattoos.

>>16146383

so I assume that means you could fine those jobs bc of you being mason, right?

(german anon needs to clarify, also I understand crippled as being disabled, and assume there is no other meaning to it)

would you talk to your masons or the masons from other lodges (I understand that masons are both enrouraged and curious to visit others lodges temple works when they for some reason shift the date and are not all meeting on same day - odd anyway, don´t you think? could maybe be understood in terms of "daemon prayer time" but obviously also would be the thing to do if you were to controll, like managing a company, have higl level meetings on tuesday, have lodged meet on wednesday, meet highlevel again on thursday, to report back and forth) [note to myself: to long sentenses….]

so would you just say "hey, bro, need a job" or would you imply in your cv that you like "travelling" and use 7 and 12 (MY!) symbolism in the cover letter to let other person know you are a mason? would you hint on degree?

>>16146388

if you hint on it, why not explain what you think all the dog comms mean.

(I am willing to say HRC and Biden don´t do this stuff bc totally morans, but bc they actually want to help, but don´t like that division bs much. just explain, and I will say what I think. no limits.)

>>16146446

I am sure you know many folks quite prominently wearing tattoos that show quite obvious mason symbolism, not only like forms, but real obvious.

>>16146484

ok, so if you did not refer to countless masons, including anons, posting on cats and dogs all day, then I guess I will not comment on that.

>>16146492

did not see many masons wearing that ring, you did not all wear it I assume?

e.g. the countless handyman that have masonic company logos, they mostly wear a ton of tattoos, but no ring, earring however, sometimes 2 or 3.

>>16146492

and just in case it referred to me and shakra stuff, nope, no ring right now, bc don´t want to.

>>16146499

<don´t do anything, let a pedo be president

<don´t do anything, keep shutting up even about the most obvious stuff

<certainly don´t stop acting, bc if you did, how else would masonry, as the devil itself, survive?

<just pray, shut up and pray

and that being said, there is power in prayer. but using this as "first praying, changing things way later, when you are told to change things" obviously is utter bs.

>>16146506

in case you refer to that: nope, that alone did not make me feel a tiny bit of "disgusting", having killed many bugs by stepping on them in the last few days as a sign to you all basically saying

>I kill those innocent bugs, only to show you all that, even when living you much as fuck, I will reject you if you do not follow me to save the future

did however.

>>16146544

also, I can move that thing through my body, quickly and in any way I want. and even when sometimes having a tiny bit of this or that feeling, it is irrelevant.

sort of like me trying to go to the bakery to buy something, and on the way there, for a tiny moment someone walking in my way so I have to make a tiny step the side, obviously I still walk to the bakery and this tiny step is not changing anything. but hey, it shows you who I am if you think it would be super improtant to make me do that tiny step, or make me heve the feeling of "eewww" for a tiny moment.

>>16146522

I kind of think that you do, but I cannot force you to say it.

another question: are masons briefed on rituals that are done publicly, like madonna concert or such? I am quite sure madonna is not doing that for some super high level masons who like to watch her or go on a concert.

Also, I guess parliaments being build as temples and the folks being told it´s a ritual is kind of their excuse to fuck the public and follow masonry. you know on that?

and maybe you could exlain the "perfect mason greeting" thing with knee to knee and stuff.

>>16146564

ok, just thought that bc you mentioned your dog and I am kind of used of people trying to alter my body temp or my mood, and if only in the slightest way.

>>16146550

>I just so happened to have encountered them.

>There is nothing I can type out here that will convince you.

I guess you could just try. Try explain how you experienced daemons. did they poke you a little? did they touch your head and you just knew "oh, this must be a daemon"? did they make you do something bad? or did you just have a bad thought, like all people have, including me who is holy and perfect in every way, and thought that this would really not be you but rather due to daemons?

I really mean it, explain, try to.

>What do you think makes rich people turn to pedophilia?

Being lured into it, maybe even pressured when done in a ritual with many other folks, then by that act controlled, I assume and consider true and see it as fitting to what I observed.

>There's a lot more going on than most know.

that is a pretty basic thing to say. you cannot really argue against it. but with that implying that people are only abusing others bc deamons make them do it it really not the truth.

if that was to be true, I guess you would have added some specifics, like you claiming that people did not know afterwards, anything more specific than you said.

also, there is the fact that masons give many different explanations as to why it would have to be the way it is done now (not changing world fast, attacking and tryign to break me). those different explanations don´t make sense, and they even contradict each other. so one explanation is given, I call bs, then next explanation is used, I call bs again, then next one…obviously bs.

>>16146611

I guess someone that is 1st degree would notice that e.g. madonna is showing much symbolism. and I would assume that she is doing that ritual (and what she does is a ritual, at least considered to be, what are rituals anyway) not only for highlevel folks, but for masons who like to hear madonna music and maybe can use that to sort of recruit other masons. seems to me like typical blue lodge stuff.

ok, another question: in what way did you experience, or as sr warden, use music in rituals?