>>1627516

That is a bit simplistic. The council of Nicea simply recognized the books that were considered canonical. There was disagreement over what was in and what was out. The Catholic Bible has more books than the Protestant Bible. Martin Luther thought James did did not deserve to be in the Canon. Depite this, other books, like these, have been read and studied.

I don't think the desire was to 'hide truth', but a ecclesiastical dispute over what was deemed 'inspired by God' and what was simply useful and interesting.

>>1627492

the 'truth' of FE. LOL. That was 'revealed' to you, was it?

Science has a better claim to reality than your revelations. FE is a total delusion.

>>1627520

The romans infiltrated the UK 1800 years ago.

>>1627526

you are cancer.

Jews are just fine, for the most part. Lots of Good Jews around. Let's start with Jesus.

>>1627559

The OT is a shadow of the things to come, the NT points to Christ as the fulfillment.

Example: Matt 1:1 says that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. But to understand what that means, and the context for that statement, you need to read the OT.

>>1627576

two moons are better than one.

>>1627579

The fucking idiots who believe that Jews are the source of all evil, the controllers of the world, the masterminds of the deep state are ridiculous. Overall, Jews have been a great blessing to the development of mankind. These folks 'prolly live in their parents basement and read books on area 51 and collect welfare checks.

Meanwhile, others are out fighting the real battles against the real enemies of mankind, like Islamic extremism and corruption of justice.

>>1627586

you are totally correct. These books were used, but not considered at the same level as the canonical literature.

>>1627602

thanks to the new and the old

>>1627615

prolly all in the airport

>>1627643

When I was an officer in the Canadian forces, I had to swear an oath to 'her majesty… and her heirs…" Total BS. Enough of that!

>>1627668

The 'church' existed before Constantine. In fact, many churches existed before the roman catholic church, including the Eastern churches (Armenia was the first Christian nation), Armenian, Coptic, Indian and Arabic. Not to mention the early Jewish followers of Jesus who formed churches.

>>1627687

It doesn't. Sheesh

>>1627715

It is not a single book.

It is more correct to say Nicea formalized that which was already considered Canon- but that did not stop the debate about what is in and what is out. This was not even the main focus of the council- rather it was called by Constantine to discuss the nature of Christ- his Deity vrs his humanity.

>>1627719

here here. It will happen.

>>1627724

or maybe there is only one or two of each, and they need to help mom take out the garbage and clean the house.

>>1627740

I think that the control was not via the decision as to what was in the NT or not, but rather the use of Latin in the mass and liturgy. Thus only the priest could read, understand and interpret the Bible for the people. This was one reason why Martin Luther wanted to print copies of the bible in German, and distribute it (along with literacy programs) to everyone. BTW, the Eastern churches did not use latin- one of the reasons for the great schism between east and western churches.

>>1627774

my hat is better than your hat

>>1627862

this hat:

>>1627863

damnit, how did that happen?

>>1627810

don't be silly. Of course they had a Bible. Pretty much the same text as we do.

>>1627926

you are wrong. Read more.

>>1627935

of course they were individual books. But the council of Nicea did not create that canon- it recognized the already existing authority of those books, which were in circulation as a body.

>>1627936

I got an MDiv and can use the original languages. Of course they were individual works, but bound together as Canon BEFORE Nicea- for the most part. See comment to the above.

>>1627943

What was the original language of the NT? Greek. Are we comfortable in saying we know what the greek texts say? Yes, in 99% of the case. Everything else is a translation of the greek- with different levels of accuracy. The first english bible, BTW, was a translation of the Latin translation of the greek. This is the King James bible. Newer translations are much better (Like New International Version)

>>1627950

The first real bible (book) was Codex Sinaiticus, handwritten in Greek, dating from before the Nicean Council (by maybe a few years)

>>1627959

Yawn. It mean authoritative.

>>1628058

catholic church = universal church

Catholic Church = Roman Catholic

Constantine created neither.

you directed the MDiv comment to the wrong guy. Whatever.

>>1628078

last post. The edict of Milan (313) did not create the church. Constantine wanted to reorganize the church, and perhaps even control it- or use it for his purposes, but he did not create the Catholic Church, whose doctrines existed 200 or so years earlier.

Believe what you want.

>>1628079

you seem to think there is a monolithic church under some central control whose leaders decided to keep special knowledge from the people.

Wrong on every count.

>>1628084

before it was called Christianity, it was simply called 'the way'. The symbol was the fish.

>>1628102

wrong religion. pastor & chaplain.