CIA =/= America or represent its people
MOSSAD =/= Israel or represent its people
CIA =/= America or represent its people
MOSSAD =/= Israel or represent its people
And before thatโฆ the Torah - which functions as an ancient land claim document, and records God giving the land to Israel, with specified boundaries (Numbers 34) - was written almost 3300 years ago.
My comment was objective. It doesn't require anyone to religiously observe the Torah to recognize that it is an ancient document which functions as a land claim, and predates all nations of today.
Again, regardless of whether one attributes the Torah to Divine origin or not, it still is a physical document that has existed for thousands of years - being the foundation of the original and longest lasting monotheistic religion of the world - and within it, are claims to a particular land with specific references to the boundaries. I don't see how that could be rationally denied by anyone. Those are simply the facts.
Those are the analyses that people refer to when they don't want it to be true. Though there are other analyses that say the Torah is original, and that other writings derive from it. Some archaeologists claim to "find nothing," while others find a lot. It comes down to denial on the part of those with an anti-religious agenda.
Neither side can objectively "prove their case" to the other, but only one side can be proven subjectively to oneself. A person who has not sought God sincerely, will not usually find God, though they will never know that they don't know. Yet hypocritically, they will often claim as you say, to know the answer: that "there is no God." Yet someone who has sought God and finds God, can look at the other and realize that they simply do not understand what they do not know.
My comments have nothing to do with Jesus, only the Torah. Christianity ("new testament') is a "newcomer religion" like Islam, that contradicts the Torah's teachings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwI_4OpDmRo