Anonymous ID: e23a69 June 16, 2018, 2:05 a.m. No.1770921   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>1769268

To the Anon who wrote this?

 

Good work, but we need to expand on this.

 

Our biggest challenge is now going to be with shills. When we came on board in November which is when most 11:11 Anon's arrived. Shills were usually just ANNOYED Anon's venting but now we have every alphabet agency and bots to contend with who are very inept at triggering inquisitive minds.

 

I think what you've written is very astute but the issue mentioned above needs to be factored in.

 

I'm simple just opening the minds of the Genuine Anon's to come up with a solution or means to combat the incoming attacks on newbies.

 

Bless you all and Godspeed!

 

WWG1WGA

Anonymous ID: e23a69 June 16, 2018, 2:17 a.m. No.1770957   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0967 >>0989

Please learn

 

Stalin Is Not Great - the Neo-Stalinist Revisionists Are Wrong

 

" … lingering Stalinophilia now only serves to distort Russian history and Russia’s self-image of itself. It is time to put that mustachioed, medals-bedecked Halloween costume back into the cupboard."

 

And now for something completely different. Instead of snippets from larger works, here’s Egor Kholmogorov’s two-part takedown of the notion of “Stalin as a Russia national hero” merged into a single text.

 

The relationship of Russian nationalism and Neo-Stalinism is a torturous one. Modern Neo-Stalinism emerged in the early 2000s as one aspect of an anti-Yeltsinist and anti-Liberal consensus, an attempt to reconcile the Imperial and Soviet past under the banner of a broadly defined Russian patriotism and do away with the kind of historical nihilism that painted Stalin as the ultimate expression of a “millennium-old Russian yearning for slavery”.

 

Many, including the author of the article and its translator, paid lip service to this movement in their younger years.

By approximately 2005, the movement had gone mainstream, and by 2012, it completely morphed into a cancerous outgrowth. The nerve of early Neo-Stalinist rhetoric was the belief that Stalin had made a U-turn from (((Old Bolshevik cosmopolitanism))), legalised some forms of Russian national consciousness, and generally put Russian history back on track (i.e., was not true Marxism, and it was good).

 

The Neo-Stalinism of The New Tens is virulently hostile towards the slightest hint of Russian patriotism and a positive appraisal of pre-1917 Russia, going as far as to condemn liking Alexander Nevsky and Peter the Great (both lionised under Stalin) as “Vlasovism” (oh the sweet irony).

 

Needless to say, this text provoked some gnashing of teeth in the Neo-Stalinist camp.

AK’s Foreword

 

After my takedown of Lenin, some people suggested that I extend it to Stalin. But what point is there when we have Kholmogorov? I agree with this 90%, down to the biographical details of my own modest (if still regrettable) quasi-Stalinophile sentiments a decade ago.

 

This is something that afflicted many Russian patriots of that time, being part of a general rejection of the Russophobic narratives of the liberal elites. Support for Stalin became intensely tribal, and a means to troll those people. However, it has now gone on for far too long. That particular culture war is no longer relevant, and lingering Stalinophilia now only serves to distort Russian history and Russia’s self-image of itself. It is time to put that mustachioed, medals-bedecked Halloween costume back into the cupboard.

 

Although we may quibble with some details – I had quite a few myself as I edited this – this piece may be considered to be as close to a Russian nationalist statement on Stalin as any.

 

If you appreciate these translations, please feel free to give Kholmogorov a tip here: http://akarlin.com/donations-kholmogorov/

 

By approximately 2005, the movement had gone mainstream, and by 2012, it completely morphed into a cancerous outgrowth. The nerve of early Neo-Stalinist rhetoric was the belief that Stalin had made a U-turn from (((Old Bolshevik cosmopolitanism))), legalised some forms of Russian national consciousness, and generally put Russian history back on track (i.e., was not true Marxism, and it was good).

 

The Neo-Stalinism of The New Tens is virulently hostile towards the slightest hint of Russian patriotism and a positive appraisal of pre-1917 Russia, going as far as to condemn liking Alexander Nevsky and Peter the Great (both lionised under Stalin) as “Vlasovism” (oh the sweet irony).

 

Needless to say, this text provoked some gnashing of teeth in the Neo-Stalinist camp.

AK’s Foreword

 

After my takedown of Lenin, some people suggested that I extend it to Stalin. But what point is there when we have Kholmogorov? I agree with this 90%, down to the biographical details of my own modest (if still regrettable) quasi-Stalinophile sentiments a decade ago.

 

This is something that afflicted many Russian patriots of that time, being part of a general rejection of the Russophobic narratives of the liberal elites. Support for Stalin became intensely tribal, and a means to troll those people. However, it has now gone on for far too long. That particular culture war is no longer relevant, and lingering Stalinophilia now only serves to distort Russian history and Russia’s self-image of itself. It is time to put that mustachioed, medals-bedecked Halloween costume back into the cupboard.

 

Although we may quibble with some details – I had quite a few myself as I edited this – this piece may be considered to be as close to a Russian nationalist statement on Stalin as any.

 

If you appreciate these translations, please feel free to give Kholmogorov a tip here: http://akarlin.com/donations-kholmogorov/

 

Part 1

Anonymous ID: e23a69 June 16, 2018, 2:20 a.m. No.1770967   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0976 >>0989

>>1770957

Part I: Pharaoh of the Plow and Atom

 

Original: https://tsargrad.tv/articles/faraon-sohi-i-reaktora_71311

 

38% of Russian citizens polled by Levada Center put Joseph Stalin at #1 among the greatest heroes of Russian and world history. He is followed by Putin, Pushkin, Lenin, Peter I, Gagarin, Leo Tolstoy, Georgy Zhukov, Catherine II, Lermontov, Lomonosov, Mendeleev, and even Brezhnev and Gorbachev. The only non-Russians who made it to the top are Napoleon, Newton, and Einstein.

 

Well well well… This is an obvious disgrace. If trustworthy, it reveals than the average Russian doesn’t have the vaguest idea about the course of Russian and world history and the true importance of historical figures. To be fair, sociologists aren’t that far from the masses, mixing in the same poll politicians, generals, writers, and scientist, whose relative importance just can’t be measured by the scale. Essentially, this a list of the best-advertised personalities.

 

The absolute disaster here is that, in 2017, almost a good half our citizens are confident enough to place Stalin at #1 in Russian and world history. Of course, the Generalissimo here is playing the part of an epic or even mythological hero; the details and real achievements do not matter. For our people, Stalin is a byword for “a strong Russia to be reckoned with in the global arena”. And this strength acts as an acceptable rationale for everything else: millions of murdered Russians, from great scientists to common villagers, demolished churches and martyred priests, a completely fleeced countryside… Everything is pardoned and justified, following Isaac Deutscher’s formula: “He found Russia working with wooden plows and left her equipped with atomic piles” (which is frequently misattributed to Winston Churchill instead of this obscure Trotskyite and has “atomic piles” replaced with the “atomic bomb”).

 

In other words, Stalin is seen by the Russian consciousness as the architect of our incredible grandeur, which was enabled by the tremendous industrial leap forward and Victory in the Great Patriotic War. This grandeur is enough to excuse his transformation of Russia into a hellish bloodbath of terror.

 

If we put mythological and epical thinking aside and deal with historical facts, is Stalin’s #1 place among the greatest personalities in world history, afforded by our compatriots and sociologists, in any way justified?

 

I have never been into anti-Stalinist hysterics. I even published multiple articles calling to refrain from cartoonish nihilism while evaluating Stalin’s contribution to our country’s Victory in the Great Patriotic War. I am an even stauncher opponent of identifying Russia with Stalin, of using Stalin’s horrifying atrocities as a pretext to erase our national heroism and demand “reparations”, “territorial concessions”, and other vile nonsense. I couldn’t care less about Stalin being distasteful to other countries and nations – the Russians are blameless before them.

 

What really concerns me is Stalin’s place in the history of the Russian people. And it is in this domain, no thanks to meddlesome “National Stalinists” who go as far as to put Stalin on icons, where the role of this historical figure is inflated to infinity and beyond. It now turns out that it wasn’t Stalin’s good fortune that the Russians stayed loyal to him during the military debacle of 1941, as he claimed himself in his famous Victory Toast. No, it was a great honor and mercy for the Russians on Stalin’s part, because he condescended to rule them, shoot them, exile them where they could plow permafrost, let them get slaughtered in Nazi encirclements, and starve them with famines. It turns out that we Russians are allegedly unworthy of Stalin, our Messiah.

 

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Anonymous ID: e23a69 June 16, 2018, 2:28 a.m. No.1771005   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1007

>>1770989

This is where Anon's are they need to expand there thinking when things are slow.

 

Do you complain at the shit posting shills or are you one who attacks truth????

Anonymous ID: e23a69 June 16, 2018, 2:34 a.m. No.1771016   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1038

>>1771007

No probs I did answer your question btw!

 

"flood the bread" sounds a little confronting!

 

WWG1WGA

 

Anon's tend to read more during night shift as the crumbs roll slower; it's a good time to pass info the the genuine Anon's.

Anonymous ID: e23a69 June 16, 2018, 2:56 a.m. No.1771074   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1087 >>1336 >>1401

ATTACKS WILL INCREASE

Sylvester Stallone Accused Of 28-Year-Old Sex Crime, Days After Appearing With Trump

 

The Los Angeles District Attorney’s office is reviewing a sex crime case against Academy Award-winning actor Sylvester Stallone.

 

The incident allegedly took place in 1990 and the accuser filed a report against Stallone in November 2017, according to the Santa Monica Police Department.

 

But the Santa Monica Police Department announced the charges against Stallone on Thursday.

 

Stallone’s attorney, Martin Singer, contends the woman who made the complaint engaged in a consensual relationship with Stallone in the 1980s and the relationship had always been consensual.

 

Singer also blasted the police department for publicizing allegations that have yet to be investigated.

 

“My client categorically denies the allegations. It’s outrageous that the DA’s office and PD would announce this information because it makes the public think that there’s something there,” Stallone’s attorney, Martin Singer, told CNN. “It’s not appropriate to try to ruin someone by doing this,” he added.

 

Singer doubled down in his criticism of the police department, arguing in an interview with the New York Post, arguing that the District Attorney’s office deliberately intended to tarnish Stallone by making the decades old allegation public.

 

The D.A.’s office only revealed it was reviewing the case to “get it out there that they’re investigating these matters,” he told the Post. “You don’t see police or the D.A.’s office issuing statements about everybody who files a police report — people would get ruined,” he said. “Why go to the media? Why not do the investigation first?”

 

The woman has made the allegations, which have expired the statue of limitations, for purely opportunistic reasons, Singer argued.

 

“This woman filed a police report after a website would not publish her story,” he claimed “She came forward trying to get a story published in November about Stallone with an entertainment website. The woman claimed there was someone who could corroborate what happened. When questioned by the site, the person told a reporter that her claims were absolutely false. They said [the alleged victim] was always boasting about her relationship with Stallone.”

 

“Two witnesses came forward and disputed her story,” he continued. “One was her boyfriend who had been with her for over 10 years. He said she only said the best things about Stallone, told him he was the greatest guy. The only thing that ever upset her was that he slept with someone who worked with him.”

 

California ended the statute of limitations on some sex crimes in 2016, including rape, forcible sodomy and molestation of a child. But the amended law applies only to crimes committed after January 1, 2017, and offenses for which the statute of limitations had not expired by that date.

 

Stallone, the iconic star of the 1976 Academy Award-winning “Rocky,” is an ardent Trump supporter.

 

The allegations revealed about Stallone comes days after the icon appeared with President Trump at the White House. After notifying Trump about the racially charged conviction of boxing’s first black heavyweight champion, Jack Johnson, Stallone joined Trump an the Oval Office ceremony on May 26 as the commander in chief granted a rare posthumous pardon of Johnson.

 

Johnson was convicted in 1913 by an all-white jury for violating the Mann Act, which made it illegal to transport women across state lines for “immoral” purposes. He was traveling with his white girlfriend.

 

Stallone was also briefly featured in the video Trump showed the North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, promising “a new world.”

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/sylvester-stallone-accused-of-28-year-old-sex-crime-days-after-appearing-with-trump/