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Den Jones:
Awesome. Yeah, no, that’s brilliant. And then the partnership between the FBI and the private sector. So I’m aware more and more about that relationship and partnership. But you want to explain a little bit about, what’s the FBI’s goal and mission with that?
Den Jones:
And then how would you think that benefits private sector and how do you think private sector could get more involved?
Elvis Chan:
Yeah, so that’s a great question. I think people have this myth or this conception in their head that the FBI and the US government, we’re like big brother. We see everything, we know everything. And that is completely not true. I think you’ve seen different statistics and surveys that say, within the United States, the vast majority, I think over 85% of all critical infrastructure is controlled by private entities. Either private entities or public entities that are not the US government.
Elvis Chan:
And so our job is to defend the critical infrastructure, the critical sector industries within the United States. But we don’t own most of the property. Who does? The private sector and the public sector. And so we need to be engaged with them to be able to do our job.
Elvis Chan:
We need to be engaged with you Den, to be able to do our jobs, because, at Banyan Security, and you know this better than most, you are a vendor and you get put into these companies. And you can see what’s going on. I don’t know if people know this, but me at the FBI, I can’t see what’s going on at the company. Banyan Security can see a lot better what’s going on at this company.
Elvis Chan:
Now, I will know better maybe what the Russian spies are doing or what cyber criminals are doing, through the course of our investigations. But I’m looking through a straw. And we only have one piece of the puzzle and really industry has the other piece of the puzzle. So when you frame it like that, it totally makes sense for me to be able to get along and for me to develop relationships with all of these different companies.
Elvis Chan:
So, within the FBI, we have figured out who are the strategically important companies that we have to get along with?And pretty much, if you’re on a Fortune 500 Company or a Fortune 1000 Company, then you’ll know that, “I’m probably working at a company that the FBI needs to know and get along with.”
Elvis Chan:
And some people say, “Well Elvis, I don’t work for any of those. But I’m like, “AHA, but are you a contractor? Are you a supplier for a fortune 1000 company?” And invariably, if the answer is yes, then we probably need to have a relationship with you.
Den Jones:
Yep. And, you and I, we first met during my days in Adobe. And then I left and went to Cisco. And I call you up straight away and I’m like, “Hey, Elvis, I’ve moved.” And then 18 months later, I joined Banyan as their CSO. And it’s like, “Hey, I’ve moved again.”
Den Jones:
And I’m not the person that really tries to move around companies so often. I mean, I was with Adobe for 19 years. So maybe that was longer than I anticipated. But my recent move here, and as you mentioned, Banyan, we have customers that are big household name customers. And while we might not be the biggest target, they very well will be.
Den Jones:
And I’d hate to think of people coming through Banyan to get to our customers, because that’s not the that’s not the plan. And then, so if a company wants to learn more about the partnership and wants to get involved, what do they need to do? How do they go find out that?
Elvis Chan:
That’s pretty easy. So, I mean, we hustle. I think you know, I hustle. I’m at a lot of different conferences and events. And so we’re typically there. You can reach out and come shake my hand and talk to me, that’s one way. You can go to fbi.gov.
Elvis Chan:
So we actually, you can do a speaker request form and ask for an FBI agent or analyst to come in and talk to your company about a variety of things, not just cybersecurity. That’s definitely another way.
Elvis Chan:
A third way I would say that’s really important is,we have an organization called InfraGard, which is the FBI’s, it’s a nonprofit organization. It’s a 501(c),but partners with the FBI where you can attend quarterly meetings, get FBI briefings and you can also get FBI reporting on a monthly basis. And so InfraGard, it’s spelled weird, it’s I-N-F-R-A-G-A-R-D.
Elvis Chan:
If you just Google that you can find and you can join to be a member. It’s really easy to be a member, only two requirements. Number one, you have to be a US citizen. And number two, you can’t have a criminal record. So fine upstanding listeners of this podcast will qualify for both of those.