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Anonymous ID: 930b7c Dec. 24, 2022, 1:06 p.m. No.18009327   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9334 >>9366 >>9367 >>9393 >>9404 >>9446

I know anons don't want to hear this, but the judge wrote a very thorough explanation of his reasons in his ruling today, going line by line why all the claims of Kari and her witnesses did not win the case. At the end of the day it comes down to there was never any evidence of "Bob told Bill 'let's still the election.' " That was always what the case was about : 100 percent irrefutable evidence that someone, who could be named, stole the election with intention. A shit standard, I know. The bad guys get away with it, I know. But for a crime to have been committed, you need to name the criminal and prove he did it KNOWINGLY. Team Kari didn't have the smoking gun, the Judge basically says, "sorry, but my hands are tied" in many instances in his ruling.

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23546846-ua-ruling-lake-vs-hobbs

Anonymous ID: 930b7c Dec. 24, 2022, 1:11 p.m. No.18009354   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9368

>>18009334

>wrong intent did not need to be shown even though that was what was said it is in violation of their own terms

Clarification, please?

I'm reading this as x was not necessary even though it was said x was necessary…

please elucidate

Anonymous ID: 930b7c Dec. 24, 2022, 1:18 p.m. No.18009391   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9409

>>18009368

Ok, I see what you're saying.

> per the states own guidelines on the vote and i could dig them out given time, intent does not matter, all that matters is that there was enough problems with the voting process intended or otherwise (whoopsies) can undermine the faith in the election and needs to be cancelled.

I hope Kari's lawyers reference this in the appeal

 

p.s.

if you have the statute, I would like to see that

if it's a bitch to find, no biggie.

Anonymous ID: 930b7c Dec. 24, 2022, 1:35 p.m. No.18009473   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9483 >>9498 >>9566

>>18009419

>>18009409

Found the Arizona law governing elections

ARS Title 16

Article 13

Section 16-672

I've put the relevant text in bold

It says nothing about intention

https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00672.htm

 

A. Any elector of the state may contest the election of any person declared elected to a state office, or declared nominated to a state office at a primary election, or the declared result of an initiated or referred measure, or a proposal to amend the Constitution of Arizona, or other question or proposal submitted to vote of the people, upon any of the following grounds:

 

1. For misconduct on the part of election boards or any members thereof in any of the counties of the state, or on the part of any officer making or participating in a canvass for a state election.

  1. That the person whose right to the office is contested was not at the time of the election eligible to the office.

  2. That the person whose right is contested, or any person acting for him, has given to an elector, inspector, judge or clerk of election, a bribe or reward, or has offered such bribe or reward for the purpose of procuring his election, or has committed any other offense against the elective franchise.

4. On account of illegal votes.

  1. That by reason of erroneous count of votes the person declared elected or the initiative or referred measure, or proposal to amend the constitution, or other question or proposal submitted, which has been declared carried, did not in fact receive the highest number of votes for the office or a sufficient number of votes to carry the measure, amendment, question or proposal.

B. The contest may be brought in the superior court of the county in which the person contesting resides or in the superior court of Maricopa county.

C. In a contest of the election of a person declared elected to a state office or of an initiated or referred measure, constitutional amendment, or other question or proposal, which has been declared carried, the attorney general may intervene, and upon demand, the place of trial of the contest shall be changed to Maricopa county, if commenced in another county.

 

All of TItle 1 (AZ ELection law): https://www.azleg.gov/arsDetail/?title=16

Anonymous ID: 930b7c Dec. 24, 2022, 1:48 p.m. No.18009542   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9553 >>9579

>>18009498

>what determines an illegal vote

AHHH

This seems to be the kicker

This is where KNOWINGLY comes in to play

All definitions of illegal votes in Arizona law come down to KNOWINGLY from what I'm reading…

Perhaps this is why the judge was intent on the "intention"

I put in bold, what I think pertains to the Lake case

https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/01016.htm

 

16-1016. Illegal voting; pollution of ballot box; removal or destruction of ballot box, poll lists or ballots; violation; classification

 

A person is guilty of a class 5 felony who:

 

  1. Not being entitled to vote, knowingly votes.

  2. Knowingly votes more than once at any election.

  3. Knowingly votes in two or more jurisdictions in this state for which residency is required for lawful voting and the person is not a resident of all jurisdictions in which the person voted. For the purposes of this paragraph, a person has only one residence for the purpose of voting.

  4. Knowingly votes in this state in an election in which a federal office appears on the ballot and votes in another state in an election in which a federal office appears on the ballot and the election day for both states is the same date.

  5. Knowingly gives to an election official two or more ballots folded together.

  6. Knowingly changes or destroys a ballot after it has been deposited in the ballot box.

7. Knowingly adds a ballot to those legally cast at any election, by fraudulently introducing the ballot into the ballot box either before or after the ballots in the ballot box have been counted.

8. Knowingly adds to or mixes with ballots lawfully cast, other ballots, while they are being canvassed or counted, with intent to affect the result of the election, or to exhibit the ballots as evidence on the trial of an election contest.

9. Knowingly and unlawfully carries away, conceals or removes a poll list, ballot or ballot box from the polling place, or from possession of the person authorized by law to have custody thereof.

10. Knowingly destroys a polling list, ballot or ballot box with the intent to interrupt or invalidate the election.

11. Knowingly detains, alters, mutilates or destroys ballots or election returns.

  1. Knowingly provides a mechanism for voting to another person who is registered in another state, including by forwarding an early ballot addressed to the other person.

 

Fina all AZ voting laws here: https://www.azleg.gov/arsDetail/?title=16

Anonymous ID: 930b7c Dec. 24, 2022, 1:56 p.m. No.18009584   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9596

>>18009566

>what is the process for RESOLVING these crimes

 

16-676. Time for hearing contest; continuance; findings of the court; judgment

 

A. In any contest brought under the provisions of section 16-672 or 16-674, upon the filing of the answer, or if no answer is filed, upon the expiration of the time specified in the summons, the court shall set a time for the hearing of the contest, not later than ten days after the date on which the statement of contest was filed, which may be continued for not to exceed five days for good cause shown.

 

B. The court shall continue in session to hear and determine all issues arising in contested elections. After hearing the proofs and allegations of the parties, and within five days after the submission thereof, the court shall file its findings and immediately thereafter shall pronounce judgment, either confirming or annulling and setting aside the election.

 

C. If in an election contest it appears that a person other than the contestee has the highest number of legal votes, the court shall declare that person elected and that the certificate of election of the person whose office is contested is of no further legal force or effect.

 

https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00676.htm

Anonymous ID: 930b7c Dec. 24, 2022, 2 p.m. No.18009606   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>9612

>>18009596

If the election was cheated, the reusults are annulled or the elections is set aside. (I think this means, a new election)

If someone is deemed culpable of stealing or cheating, it's a felony.