Anonymous ID: 66bc84 Jan. 23, 2023, 9:42 a.m. No.18203386   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3393 >>3435 >>3475 >>3508 >>3574 >>3875 >>3986 >>4069

>>18200482

 

"Who shot John?"

 

Thanks, anon. Was looking for the right tape. Carlson got the date wrong, and Jefferson Morley got it right: Oct. 8, 1971. That's when Nixon raised the question rhetorically to CIA Director Helms, "Who shot John?"

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/05/nixon-helms-cia-jfk-assassination-00037232

 

The tape:

 

http://nixontapes.org/rmh/587-007a.mp3

 

Nixon raises the question @17:30.

 

Morley suggests one interpretation, implicating Castro. But Nixon wouldn't have raised the question with Helms if the CIA had no relevant info, soโ€ฆ

 

http://nixontapes.org/rmh.html

 

Postscript:

 

A scene was deleted from Oliver Stone's "Nixon". It was deleted after Helms threatened to sue, but it was released later on the director's cut. Ultimately, Helms didn't sue.

 

The scene imagines a very private conversation at CIA HQ. It's a fictional portrayal, but it captures something of the deep tension between the two men, and the scene pivots onโ€ฆ just that.

 

Morley's "Scorpion's Dance" quotes Sen. Baker:

 

"Nixon and Helms, observed Sen. Howard Baker, 'had so much on each other, neither of them could breathe.'

 

And now we know why."

Anonymous ID: 66bc84 Jan. 23, 2023, 10:10 a.m. No.18203574   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>3585 >>3875 >>3986 >>4069

>>18203386

 

Thanks for mentioning Garrison, anon.

 

A Wiki note on Garrison, conceivably related to the apparent tension between Nixon and Helms:

 

"US talk radio host David Mendelsohn conducted a comprehensive interview with Garrison which was broadcast in 1988 by KPFA in Berkeley, California. Alongside Garrison, the program featured the voices of Lee Harvey Oswald and JFK filmmaker Oliver Stone. Garrison explains that cover stories were circulated in an attempt to blame the killing on the Cubans and the Mafia but he blames the conspiracy to kill the president firmly on the CIA who wanted to continue the Cold War. [31]"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Garrison

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20131014094324/http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/86549