Anonymous ID: 76092a April 16, 2023, 6:25 a.m. No.18703938   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>3961 >>3998

>>18703908

trying to wrap the gray matter around the concept while reading through Salvage Law in terms of Maritime Law.

 

Help? Yes, this is voluntary.

And that would be the question, would the "crew" onboard, already have a preexisting contract with the ship-owner? If so, how does the "crew" get down to doing the salvaging? Or has title to the ship/ships been abrogated?

Anonymous ID: 76092a April 16, 2023, 6:54 a.m. No.18704006   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18703961

the 4th edition…

right after bretton woods and then all the mess with WW2

 

DROITS OF ADMIRALTY. Rights or perquisites of the admiralty. A term applied to goods found derelict at sea. Applied also to property captured in time of war by non-commissioned vessels of a

belligerent nation. 1 Kent, Comm. 96; 2 Sel.Essays in Anglo-Amer.Leg.Hist. 318; 15 L.Q.R. 359;

Marsden, Admiralty, Droits and Salvage; 1 W.

Rob. 423. In England, it has been usual in maritime wars for the government to seize and condemn, as droits of admiralty, the property of an

enemy found in her ports at the breaking out of

hostilities. 1 C.Rob. 196; 13 Ves. 71; 1 Edw. 60;

3 Bos. & P. 191. The power to exercise such a

right has not been delegated to, nor has it ever

been claimed by, the United States government.

Benedict, Adm. § 33; Brown v. U. S., 8 Cranch, 110,

3 L.Ed. 504

 

Equitable Salvage

By analogy, the term "salvage" is sometimes

also used in cases which have nothing to do with

maritime perils, but in which property has been

preserved from loss by the last of several advances by different persons. In such a case, the

.person making the last advance is frequently entitled to priority over the others, on the ground

that, without his advance, the property would have

been lost altogether. This right, which is sometimes called that of "equitable salvage," and is in

the nature of a lien, is chiefly of importance with

reference to payments made to prevent leases or

policies of insurance from being forfeited, or to

prevent mines and similar undertakings from being stopped or injured. 1 Fish.Mortg. 149; 3 Ch.

Div. 411; L.R. 14 Eq. 4; 7 Ch.Div. 825.

 

Law of Shipping

A comprehensive term for all that part of the

maritime law which relates to ships and the persons employed in or about them. It embraces

such subjects as the building and equipment of

vessels, their registration and nationality, their

ownership and inspection, their employment, (including charter-parties, freight, demurrage, towage, and salvage,) and their sale, transfer, and

mortgage; also, the employment, rights, powers,

and duties of masters and mariners; and the

law relating to ship-brokers, ship-agents, pilots,

etc.

 

WRECK. To destroy, disable, or seriously damage. Zohner v. Sierra Nevada Life and Casualty

Co., 114 Cal.App. 85, 299 P. 749, 751. To reduce to

a wreck or ruinous state by any kind of violence;

to overthrow, shatter, or destroy; to cause to

crash or suffer ruin, synonymous with ruin,

smash, and demolish. Its antonyms are save,

salvage, and preserve

 

CONSORTSHIP. In maritime law. An agreement or stipulation between the owners of different vessels that they shall keep in company,

mutually aid, instead of interfering with each other, in wrecking and salvage, and share any money

awarded as salvage, whether earned by one vessel

or both. Andrews v. Wall, 3 How. 571, 11 L.Ed.

729.

 

One has to wonder if the title holders to ships at sea, nations, have seen their ruse disintegrate before them as things steamroll and they're ready to part ways and get out or go to the part of getting rid of the goods they can to keep their ruse?

Anonymous ID: 76092a April 16, 2023, 6:56 a.m. No.18704017   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4036 >>4054

>>18703998

This is the system by which all are governed but not necessarily discussed to the gen pop

 

berth certificate - birth certificate

etc.

but by utilizing the system, an agreement is implied whether one realizes the system to which your agreement is stipulated under

Anonymous ID: 76092a April 16, 2023, 7:18 a.m. No.18704080   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4127

>>18704054

thanks anon for that reminder…

 

to "cure"

the remedy must then come from the system governing? And once the "rules of the road" are properly employed, the "ship" may be righted and navigation resumed equitably and then get all the other ship righted and underway

Anonymous ID: 76092a April 16, 2023, 7:40 a.m. No.18704165   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18704127

"the great awakening"

 

and the seas give up the dead

 

yep, that sounds biblical

 

With all these different trusts then, there would have to be an order of succession or who has title over the other.