Anonymous ID: 06077f April 21, 2023, 11:41 a.m. No.18730637   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0661

>>18730590 (lb)

The streets of Philly and Baltimore are a result of ineffectual, ignorant, or communist-sympathetic DAs and Judges. Rampant crime has nothing to do with the liberation and progression of male/female sexual dynamics or perceived perversions of norms regarding the family unit. Two entirely different subjects.

Anonymous ID: 06077f April 21, 2023, 1:09 p.m. No.18730977   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0979 >>0991 >>0998

>>18730661

>Thanks for responding

NP.

 

Immorality and legality are also two separate issues. We can both wish for an idealistic scenario where the nuclear family is what everyone chooses, wants, and maintains in lifelong wedlock. That has never worked with 100% success - even under Augustus Caesar it didn't. Did it help to strengthen Rome for a little while by refocusing culture on the institution of marriage? Yes, but only under threat of legal action by the state against its own citizenry (some offenses punishable by death), and royal families and aristocrats were almost always exempted from them (even if it wasn't made public).

 

Fatherless homes could be a contributor, sure, but if we're being honest with each other most homes throughout the ages and empires before us were all "fatherless". Men had to work, fight wars, and perform other jobs in far away places to provide and help sustain for his family and the interests of the state. Not everyone worked a local job, farmed, or had a trade in town. So the fatherless homes in the USA aren't necessarily the same as the fatherless homes that have existed throughout the ages; though there is probably some overlap.

 

America's fatherless homes suffer from a slew of other issues that never existed before. Most of it stems from bad culture in conjunction with all the other items you listed (all governmental institutions "gone bad" and have nothing to do with morality; they have to do with legal authorities not doing their jobs). I've known many people who grew up in fatherless homes that turned out very well, actually. Some may have had to struggle more with their own identity, and in some ways are tougher than their peers growing up in an environment where both parents were present. What did societies and empires in the past ages do to support mothers and children better than we do in 2023 in the United States? If you can answer that question honestly, you might get back to a real answer about what's really going on with the soul of the US. If church was the solution, it failed. If non-profits were the solution, they failed. If government was the solution, it failed. If education was the solution, it has failed.

 

I don't think the solution is to discard the institutions and build new ones, though the prospect might seem tempting if we're doing hypothetical scenarios in our heads. The solution is for an awake and aware public to get involved and take these institutions back and reform them from within. More people than ever are taking to homeschooling. There are significant efforts from Governors and people new to politics to get involved and put ethical people in office to enforce the law. Campaigns to raise awareness of drug/alcohol abuse are great, but real solutions and treatment centers that offer a way out of addiction that don't require people to mortgage their homes are needed – and those do not exist.

 

You can bible thump all day about how "God can fix this", but in the end, you have to acknowledge that God doesn't lift a finger until man looks at himself with enough introspection to take action.

 

Finally, to elaborate on God's "natural laws" for a second. Anthropologists have proven that a majority of human populations have been polygamous. You can ask them how/why our reproductive organs evolved the way they did (shaped in a way as to remove a competing male's sperm from females) and also ask how to explain the extreme sexual dimorphism between males and females (a strong indicator of the evolution of polygamous mate pairings over thousands of years).

 

The concept of monogamy and ensuring as close to a 50/50 mate paring of males to females was intended as an incentive to ensure societal cooperation and motivation for the majority of the workforce (in previous generations, mostly men). Rome found this system of societal control over interpersonal relationship strengthened the state's position of authority over the citizenry because of the mutually beneficial exchange. The only thing it needed to cement the concept in the minds of people over the past couple of thousand years was a religious authority that worked in conjunction with the state to ensure it was adhered to in a manner that gave it more spiritual significance than just a legal one.

 

Finally, there's the issue with the divorce rate. Again, there's a slew of reasons people get divorced, but the same reasons for it today were mostly the same reasons people split throughout the ages before.

  1. Incompatibility

  2. Infidelity

  3. Money

Anonymous ID: 06077f April 21, 2023, 1:09 p.m. No.18730979   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>0989

>>18730661

>>18730977

 

There is absolutely no incentive, whatsoever, for young men to even bother with engaging with the institution as it currently is. It is the highest risk/reward engagement for men who will likely provide greater than 60% of the income, have 15% decision making power over how/when money is spent, will likely lose custody of their progeny in a divorce that's 50% likely to happen, and will still be on the hook as a provider for the children while taking a back seat in the decision on how they should be raise, and financially responsible for contributing to his ex wife in the form of alimony depending on how long they were married and the laws governing the institution where they were living.

 

There are people that have issues with morality, but this isn't the biggest problem. This is a "government needs to butt the fuck out of interpersonal relationships and people need to stand up and take their own institutions back" issue. None of this is going to matter in the least bit until the underlying support system for it all is resolved, and that is currency. If we really were a nation of surplus with priorities in the right direction we would've already solved the issues of society's difficulties with commitment and marriage by ensuring a safety net for children and single mothers. But since we're incapable of conceiving and implementing any workable solution that enables and empowers these groups we're stuck with a broken system based on a concept that is a bit idealistic for the evolution of humans, pretends to be the only real solution to a citizen/state dilemma of motivation and mutual benefit, fails 50% of the time for a plethora of reasons, and has one of the most lopsided risk/reward outcomes of any institution ever conceived.

 

So to recap:

-All the crime problems you are talking about are a symptom of a defunct legal system mishandling kids from broken homes and kids from fully functional homes that are criminal minded - and yes, the broken home kids are over-represented in crime statistics.

-Anthropologists probably disagree with your assertion about how male and female sexual dynamics have progressed/evolved over the past 60 thousand years or so.

-The institution of marriage as it is, is way too risky for young men due to financial and other reasons.

-Some people have drug problems.

-Forcing people into state-run institutions that ignore the evolution of human nature is setting up a scenario of control, itself, and doesn't address the bigger issue of how to reshape a cooperative society to fit around human nature itself.

Anonymous ID: 06077f April 21, 2023, 1:58 p.m. No.18731139   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>18731110

Yep, other countries are leaning into evolutionary biology and polygamous mating strategies despite the laws in their own countries prohibiting it. Here when people do it through dating and living their own lives we call it "a sin against god".

 

Meanwhile, Chinese men of good stock have access to harems.

 

Good job, guys.