8 May, 2023 15:371/2

The West risks creating a ‘Snow ISIS’ in Europe with extremists going to fight in Ukraine

A neo-Nazi terrorist threat could emerge from the fog of war as radicals return from the frontlines

A new assassination attempt shook Russia last week, targeting a prominent civilian figure — this time, writer Zakhar Prilepin, whose car was blown up in Nizhny Novgorod region.

The hit, which Prilepin survived, is reminiscent of the incident that killed political scientist and activist Darya Dugina last year near Moscow, and also the bombing that targeted military blogger Vladlen Tartarsky and leveled a Saint Petersburg café. These attacks are similar to those routinely condemned by the West when they’re committed by jihadists. But Western officials’ clear lack of interest in identifying or denouncing the perpetrators of these incidents speaks volumes.

And speaking of sabotage, who’s responsible for launching the drone that blew up over the Kremlin last week? The shrug from Washington is deafening. Classified US documents leaked online last month already fingered Ukrainian agents who “pursued drone attacks inside Belarus and Russia, contrary to US and Western wishes, and leaders in Kyiv have considered further targets outside Ukraine,” according to NBC News. Yet when asked about the incident by the Washington Post, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said that the incident should be taken with “a very large shaker of salt” – as though US officials weren’t already fully aware of the general intention to pursue precisely such attacks. But Western officials constantly play on plausible deniability. What enables them to do so is their insistence on distinguishing between Ukraine the country, on one hand, and pro-Ukrainian agents and groups on the other.

There sure is a lot of sabotage against Russia happening right now. Some is attributed to Ukraine directly, as France’s Le Monde did recently in the wake of the bombing of a train in Bryansk. Other acts, like the attack on the Nord Stream pipeline network – a centerpiece of Russian-European economic cooperation – have been described by US officials as being perpetrated by undefined “pro-Ukrainian” groups.

Any distinction is really just a minor detail considering that NATO allies can’t even be bothered to make it themselves when it might suit them.They knowingly trained Azov battalion neo-Nazis, as Canada’s Ottawa Citizen and other Western media have documented. Those soldiers had ultimately been folded into the Ukrainian army and their background was conveniently whitewashed.

The security threat that the US and its allies are fomenting in Europe is reminiscent of their actions in Syria. They trained and equipped “moderate” Syrian rebels in a failed attempt to overthrow President Bashar Assad, and many of these fighters ended up joining al-Qaeda.

Furthermore, Western-supplied weapons ultimately ended up in the hands of the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) and al-Nusra. A resounding success for a counter-terrorism operation.

https://www.rt.com/news/575844-snow-isis-terrorist-europe-ukraine/

(Good point, who would want these Neo Nazi terrorists back in their own countries?)

>>18816525

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TheWest risks creating an international terrorist Disneyland in Ukraine like it did in Syria. Back in 2018, French intelligence services worried about the return of French jihadists from Syria and the impact of retuning fighters on French and European domestic security.Do they have the same fears about returning fighters from Ukraine?

Just last month, a couple of French men, reportedly in their 20s, got off a bus in Paris from Lviv, Ukraine, were arrested, went straight to court, and have already been sentenced to 15 months in prison (with nine of those being a suspended sentence).

In French justice terms, that means they were caught red handed. All this happened so whiplash fast that if you blinked you would have missed it. So who are these guys exactly? Well, French intelligence certainly knows. They’ve reportedly been tracking these two specifically for a while now. One is identified unofficially in French mainstream media as “Alain V” and was previously featured in a press report on neo-Nazis in the French army. He was in the military’s alpine hunter division, so he’s probably a great skier. Maybe he was just over in Ukraine for some skiing with the “Snow ISIS” neo-Nazis mentored by the West.

Thesuspect reportedly also has a tattoo in German of the Schutzstaffel loyalty pledge to Adolf Hitlerand is said to have written on Facebook in 2018 that migrants should get a “good bullet in the back of the head.” So he was already on the authorities’ naughty list even before he allegedly went to Ukraine with his pal, whom we know little about, but whose identity in various French sources has been unofficially floated as “Guillaume A.”

After arriving back in Paris, these two were promptly arrested for what’s being described as prior admission of guilt for transport and possession of weapons, some of which they also seem to have managed to get onto the bus, having been allegedly caught outright with assault rifle magazines.

Is this just the tip of the iceberg of a much larger threat to Europe? According to France’s domestic intelligence service, the DGSI,about 400 French citizens are fighting in Ukraine, including an estimated 30 known neo-Nazis.

All this might come as a real shock to the Western establishment that keeps arguing that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s special military operation objective of denazification is nothing but fake news, and issuing fact checks to that effect, saying that the notion of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is just Russian propaganda. They’d just better hope that with all the weapons and training that the West has dumped into Ukraine, any potential blowback on Europe also stays nothing more than a mere figment of the imagination. But whether they’re ignorant, naive, or reckless, you’d think that this incident would serve as a wake up call.

https://www.rt.com/news/575844-snow-isis-terrorist-europe-ukraine/

8 May, 2023 14:22

‘Immortal Regiment’ parades held across Europe (VIDEOS)

Hundreds took to the streets of Frankfurt, Madrid and Rome and elsewhere to honor Soviet soldiers who liberated Europe from Nazis

Hundreds of Russians living abroad and many locals, too, have taken part in traditional ‘Immortal Regiment’ parades in several European cities on the eve of Victory Day.Participants carrying photos of their relatives who fought in WWII expressed gratitude to the Soviet army for liberating the continent from Nazis.

On Sunday, a commemorative march was held in Frankfurt, Germany, drawing several hundred. They walked through the streets, carrying Soviet and Russian flags along with portraits of their relatives, as is traditional in 'Immortal Regiment' processions. One of the participants told the Ruptly video agency that he had joined the march because “we must not forget the sacrifice [Soviet soldiers] made.” The man added that he felt that “it is our duty to pass this on to the new generations.”

Also on Sunday, a similar event was organized in the Spanish capital Madrid, where the procession was at one point confronted by people waving Ukrainian flags, as reported by Ruptly. Police quickly moved in to separate the two groups, preventing any potential altercations.

“It is a tribute to the Soviet people, to the Red Army, who were left with between27 and 30 million dead in the fight against fascism,” Nines Maestro, one of the demonstrators in Madrid, told Ruptly. (Imagine that, it’s hard to comprehend, and now they are fighting them again in Ukraine. It’s surprising they have held back and are accomplishing their operation)

More than 200 people, both Russians and locals, turned up for the ‘Immortal Regiment’ parade in central Rome on Sunday. Several flags of the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics were spotted during the rally.

Also attending the event was Russia’s chargé d’affaires in Italy, Mikhail Rossiysky.

The march organizer, Tamara Dzhuranova, told Russia’s RIA Novosti media outlet that the ‘Immortal Regiment’ had for the second year attracted quite a lot of Italians.

Journalist and writer Fulvio Grimaldi, for his part, claimed that just like the Soviet Union “saved us all in the last century,” so is Russia “saving us today again.”

In Greece, left-wing groups held a similarly themed march in Athens that culminated in a protest outside the US embassy.

Marchers there were carrying banners emblazoned with slogans such as “Death to fascism,” “The Red Army vanquished fascism, NATO’s defeat is peoples’ peace,” and “Greece against sending weapons to Kiev.”

Around 200 people also gathered around a Soviet WWII memorial in the Austrian capital, Vienna, on Sunday, where the Russian ambassador Dmitry Lyubinsky addressed the participants. He declared Victory Day is a sacred date for all Russians, and expressed confidence that all attempts to rewrite history would eventually fail.

Similar rallies were held in Beijing, Istanbul, Caracas and Buenos Aires, to name but a few locations.

The concept of the ‘Immortal Regiment’ was born in Russia’s city of Tomsk in 2012, with the tradition having since gained much traction nationally and further afield.

https://www.rt.com/news/575963-immortal-regiment-victory-day-european-cities/

>>18816565

In the United States took place the action “Immortal Regiment”

By News Room

8 May 2023

Russian diplomats in the United States commemorated fallen heroes in the Great Patriotic War with the Immortal Regiment action.

This time the procession through the center of the American capital did not take place.

Instead, a line took place on the territory of the Russian Embassy, which was attended by students of the school of the diplomatic mission and their parents. Attendees held portraits of their veteran loved ones, read poetry and sang famous songs from the war years.

“I only regret one thing: this year,I will not be able to walk with you in the streets of Washington”, quotes RIA Novosti Anatoly Antonov, Russian Ambassador to Washington.

The action “Immortal Regiment” was also held today in Vienna, the capital of Austria.

Participants in the action came with portraits of their ancestors – participants of the Great Patriotic War, and in the square of the Austrian capital you could hear the legendary works of the Second World War.

https://www.easternherald.com/2023/05/08/in-the-united-states-took-place-the-action-immortal-regiment/

>>18816588

How Russia’s Immortal Regiment Was Brought To Life

Mikhail Nemtsev considers how this movement grew from a commemoration of fallen ancestors to a new public tradition centred around expressing patriotism

By Mikhail Nemtsev 08 May 20191/3

Every year on Victory Day, thousands of Russians take to the streets holding portraits of their ancestors and loved ones who perished in the Second World War. These processions, known as the “Immortal Regiment,” have become a familiar sight in Russia’s towns and cities on May 9.The Immortal Regiment has become a new tradition, and has been formally organised as such for at least ten years.

Back in the early 2000s, many Russians marked Victory Day by walking onto the streets holding pictures of their relatives, but it took a social movement to unite these sporadic gestures into something on a wider scale. A group of journalists in the Siberian city of Tomsk did just that; the nation-wide event henceforth known as the “Immortal Regiment” was first held across several Russian cities on May 9, 2012. It proved wildly successful. By 2015 the coordination centre for the event was moved from Tomsk to Moscow, while the initiative was picked up by PR managers with government funding and full media support. That same year, whichmarked the 70th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany, the Immortal Regiment officially featured in the programme of events for Victory Day in Moscow. High-ranking Russian officials flocked to demonstrate their interest in the procession, and at their head was Vladimir Putin.

Since that moment, the Immortal Regiment can be viewed simultaneously as a state-sponsored project deeply intertwined with official policies towards historical memory and as the collective representation of local, bottom-up commemorative initiatives. As activists still play a crucial role in bringing the Immortal Regiment to life in their communities, local dynamics nonetheless influence how the procession is held and its level of politicisation.

How did this civic initiative in a Siberian city become a cornerstone of the Kremlin’s commemorative policy?

The Immortal Regiment Goes International

The Immortal Regiment turned out to be very popular among Russian émigrés abroad. Since 2017, the processions have been held in various cities around the world. Russian diplomatic staff play an active role in organising the event, which has become something of an official method of cultural diplomacy. For those who have left Russia, attending an Immortal Regiment procession is more than an act of commemoration: it’s a strong assertion of their national and cultural identity. Russians living overseas are thus symbolically united in one regiment with their compatriots back home.

The Immortal Regiment is often criticised for being a conduit for the Russian authorities to promote their agenda. However, those attend it frequently see the event as an apolitical ritual of ethno-national solidarity with other Russians, even if that solidarity can be used for government propaganda. After all, it is obvious that the Immortal Regiment could never be held abroad without the interest shown by migrant and expatriate communities from Russia and other post-Soviet states. Their participation is voluntary; unlike at home, the Russian authorities have no way of coercing Russians living overseas to take part in the event. Nevertheless, it would be a mistake to assume that all participants in the Immortal Regiment share the values the state’s ideologues might ascribe to them. This same ambivalence can also be felt in discussions about the Immortal Regiment in Russia.

Problems With Portraits

Seven years ago, the founders of the Immortal Regiment could hardly have imagined the future success and scope of their initiative. But as the Immortal Regiment spread, so did the cracks and contradictions in state ideology.

Everybody could agree that remembering the war was important; but when it came to exactly how to remember the war, public agreement was impossible to reach. The recent history of the Immortal Regiment provides a perfect illustration.

A key attribute in this public act of commemoration is the portraits of family members who fought in the Great Patriotic War (as the Second World War is known in Russia.) It was initially intended that these portraits would represent those who fell in battle or passed away after the war. As these people cannot take part in the parade, one of their descendants takes their place among its ranks. They thereby symbolically establish continuity with their celebrated ancestor.

https://ridl.io/how-russia-s-immortal-regiment-was-brought-to-life/

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Yet as the years pass, the link between the generation who fought in that conflict and their descendants is growing ever more distant, if not tenuous. By taking a portrait of somebody in his hands, a young Russian can walk the streets of his city andaffirm his family’s role in the ultimate example of symbolic “goodness.” It is as if he can declare “we were there too.” For other descendants of veterans, closer family ties to that generation play an understandable and indisputable role in allowing them to rejoin a collective past, rich in a sense of purpose and a source of pride. In the Immortal Regiment, the personal and the civic are masterfully combined in a single act of “performative memory.”

The central contradiction of the Immortal Regiment is the lack of clarity around what precisely the portrait represents. The very premise that it is legitimate to bear a portrait of any and every person who played a role in the Great Patriotic War is based on a fundamentally Soviet account of the war; one cleansed of anything that would discredit the Soviet Union’s role and conduct in that conflict. In the post-Soviet era, this cleansed social memory of the war has become the basis for the Russian state’s official account of history, which also tends to excuse or simply cover up any inconvenient facts about Soviet foreign and domestic policy during the Second World War. No less important is the role of the strong discursive distinction between the Great Patriotic War (1941-1945) and the Second World War (1939-1945). While the distinction is being reconsidered by some in Russia, it nonetheless makes it possible to ignore an important but very painful element of the history of the war: namely, the fact of military and political cooperation between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany between 1939 and 1941.

During the late Soviet era, the figure of the veteran was the embodiment of the official version of the war. The veteran retained the authentic experience of having fought in the war, the sense of “having been there,” while remaining completely loyal to all the meanings the state ascribed to that experience. But not every combatant was seen as a veteran. For example, Soviet soldiers who were captured by the enemy were “damaged goods” to be treated with suspicion; they could not be accepted by official veteran organisations. Those who were accorded the status of veteran received several advantages, not all of which are merely symbolic; holders of a veteran certificate in Russia today are entitled to additional benefits, access to social welfare, and in some regions of the country free public transport. They even receive at least formal respect from state officials.

Due to the exalted role of veterans in the state’s ideology and today’s economic situation, this lack of clear distinction of who counts as a veteran inevitably led to more and more faces appearing on the placards of the Immortal Regiment. Uncomfortable questions mounted alongside them. For example, do those who organised mass repressions before, during, or after the war merit a symbolic place in the Immortal Regiment? Is it appropriate that the portraits of those who fought on the front lines appear alongside those of people who murdered them?

In 2016 Vyacheslav Nikonov, a deputy of the State Duma, appeared at the procession of the Immortal Regiment holding a portrait of his grandfather Vyacheslav Molotov, Stalin’s Minister of Foreign Affairs. Nikonov’s move was controversial, and prompted heated debate. Due to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in 1939, Molotov was arguably an initiator of the Second World War, and had also helped organise mass repressions in the preceding years. Some wondered whether his portrait belonged at the event. At the same time, while Molotov played a role during the war as a member of the General Staff, he was not a soldier and did not see front line combat. Therefore, Molotov was not technically a veteran. These debates did not reach any clear conclusion, and now resurface every year. In subsequent years, another dispute arose about the appearance of Stalin’s portrait at the event; simultaneously the commander-in-chief of the Soviet forces and the leading organiser (or chief executioner) of mass repressions. In 2019, the official organisers of the Immortal Regiment in the Russian capital announced that they “did not recommend” people to display Stalin’s portrait, but then declared that there was no prohibition against doing so.

Standardised Commemoration

The growth of the Immortal Regiment into a mass event led to a standardisation of its commemorative practices. The placards on sticks which participants hold are all provided by the central organisers of the event, and the portraits affixed to them are printed by mass order to the same specifications.

https://ridl.io/how-russia-s-immortal-regiment-was-brought-to-life/

>>18816728 I figured someone would bark about it, I just thought it interesting to understand the meaning of the event an the Russian psyche,do you want me to not post the 3rd installment?After all anons can choose not to read it, since there is shit talking on the board

I wish we in America did patriotic things for the veterans of our wars!

>>18816728

btw everything about the board is about HISTORY!

>>18816772

so when it's not valuable don't read it right?

>>18816791

kek, funny, you don't recognize my style since Ive been posting since Jan 2018, if I was a fed boi, I wouldn't be so clumsy of being interested in the history of their holiday,but my comment was really a question on what you were saying.

DOJ seeks 25 years in jail for Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes

Seditious conspiracy has a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison, though Rhodes was also convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding and aiding and abetting.

By Ben Whedon Updated: May 8, 2023 - 4:52pm

The Department of Justice is seeking a 25-year prison sentence for Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes, who was convicted last year of seditious conspiracy for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

Five members of the group stood trial in that case and were found guilty on criminal counts. Rhodes and Kelly Meggs were also found guilty of seditious conspiracy while the three other defendants in the case, Jessica Watkins, Kenneth Harrelson and Thomas Caldwell, were acquitted on that charge.

Other members of the group have faced charges in separate cases, including an additional batch of four whom a jury convicted of seditious conspiracy in January.

The DOJ argued in a late Friday court filing that Rhodes should face the lengthy sentence, also recommending that Meggs receive 21 years, according to The Hill.

"Using their positions of prominence within, and in affiliation with, the Oath Keepers organization, these defendants played a central and damning role in opposing by force the government of the United States, breaking the solemn oath many of them swore as members of the United States Armed Forces," the DOJ contended.

"He exploited his vast public influence as the leader of the Oath Keepers and used his talents for manipulation to goad more than twenty other American citizens into using force, intimidation, and violence to seek to impose their preferred result on a U.S. presidential election," the agency wrote of Rhodes, in particular.

Seditious conspiracy has a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison, though Rhodes was also convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding and aiding and abetting.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/doj-seeks-25-years-jail-oath-keepers-founder-stewart-rhodes

When is some Circuit Court going to over-rule these ridiculous persecutions. They allow Antifa to kill, maim and have real insurrections, but put someone in jail that came to protest the protestors. Honest to God this has to stop!

>>18816826

you're paranoid and I actually think you are a shill with your buddy

btw that was the title of the article, I didn't write it, go away now

>>18816806

ok, now I'm convinced you are a shill!

>>18816691

God bless Sidney, she went through hell, and got torn apart and destroyed by the press. She is still an excellent attorney and had a fantastic legal reputation. They did to her what they did and are going to Rudy and others. I all felt like the 2020 was a slam dunk to prove cheating, we all underestimated the extensive planning. They only one that didn't was PDJT, he knew in advance.

it'snotablethat Sidney is able to get back in the game.

>>18816868

It's worse than that, the gov had enacted an insurrection against the people and the country