>Only God can do these things with that type of precision and magnitude.
To be fair. You have no idea how technologically advanced the "black projects" are.
I've been convinced for years that secret tech is at least 50 years ahead of public tech.
You having no explanation doesn't make God the explanation.
That's common fallacy in logic called "The God of the Gap".
>a fixed span of time is a meaningless reference scale
Sure. It was a figure of speech. Also it wasn't 'fixed' as signified by me saying "at least".
>expand your thinking
Expand you reading abilities.
>How would I know all these things if they weren't my prayers?
Prayers are not a source of knowledge.
>if you believe in God
I don't. I thought my previous post made that obvious.
>"Would God take up the cause?"
The only things I know about God are things I was told about by humans. I don't trust humans. Therefore I don't trust what they tell me about the nature of a supposed God that I only know about because they told me about him. So to answer your question, assuming that he does exist, I have no clue what causes he would take up or not.
>Faith completed become knowledge.
No, faith and knowledge are completely different categories. One doesn't become another.
Faith is a belief in something.
Knowledge is knowing something.
You can believe in something untrue.
Knowledge can be acquired in the spite of faith.
>This is why I gave you an "if" so you can clarify.
And I did.
>That is because you haven't given any of it much thought
That's because it makes no sense to give it any thought when I don't believe that God exists anyway.
>If you know the horrors of how AdrenoChrome is made, why wouldn't God take up the cause?
Again, assuming he does exist, would he?
It would require me to make a lot of assumptions to say anything of his nature. And at that point I would basically be writing bible fan-fic.
>ignorance -> faith -> belief -> knowing
You are confusing "faith" and "belief" with imagination.
Try again, but only use "out-of-place" capitalizations this time.
Like we did in the old days when misspellings mattered.
>AI is not a doctor
Correct. It's not even actually AI.
>and if it's intelligent
It's not. It just feigns it.
AI is a sci-fi term that is only used because of the cultural significance and marketing.
These models are not AI, they are predictive generative models. They predict the most likely output and return that to you. No thought was ever involved in the process.
That's why people are not calling for copyright actions, because these models simply just copy, rearranges and paste stuff from the internet based on a trained predictive models and your prompt.
>Again
Wat?
Your analogy has nothing to do with what we discussed…
We were talking about belief vs knowledge.
If I believe someone put $100 under my car mat without my knowledge and I came across a toll, I would think I had enough due to my belief until I checked under the mat and saw that my belief was unfounded (i.e. the opposite of confirmed).
I therefore gained the knowledge that there is no money under my car mat, despite my belief.
>You can only confirm what you have proof of.
Correct.
Like checking under the car mat and finding empirical proof (using your eyes) of no money being there.
But for it to be a 'confirmation' and not a 'refutation' you'd have to have had a preconceived notion of what is ultimately the truth.
>Without God, you would be living in Hell and already be dead.
Seeing as in your view God is the Creator.
Without God none of us would even exist…
<I love Christfags thinking threatening an Atheist with hell is scary to them. Kek
>What holds people back from murdering you?
Common sense.
>The Grace of God.
Do you need an authority figure to tell you not to kill people? Shit, that sounds insane. Remind to never let you babysit my kids. fuck.
>In a godless world, Might makes Right and everyone does as he pleases.
Incorrect. Godless doesn't mean clueless. Proper morals are mutually beneficial.
We band together to make and enforce laws so that people don't kill each other because killing is detrimental to society at large.
>Agnosttic have it about right they just want proof,
No… agnostics just wants their cake and eat it too.
I was speaking in hypotheticals about a concept.
>You already do, it is called your own life.
What is do I do, that is called my own life?
>To find the truth, measure by how much of your own life it costs you.
The truth of what? The money under my car mat. I guess it cost me a potential discus prolapse and possibly a fine or being turned back for not being able to pay the toll.
Does that make it the truth?
>There is proof out there for something even in the historical record and there are questions raised by that according to these ancient documents.
Sure. I agree.
>Is that the god of the bible well perhaps one of them.
"Perhaps" is the keyword there. I don't make that assumption. You do.
>The atheists on the other hand are really good at laying the smack down because they want to prove to the religious and point and call them stupid
Way to assign motive there. Is that what I'm doing?
I have at no point called anyone stupid during these conversations. I respect every ones beliefs, even if I don't share them.
But I point out logical fallacies and assertive statements that is used to convince me to join their cult.
<Funny side note. I have made it a point to always capitalize God when speaking to people here, out of respect since even though I don't believe in him many anons do.
>god
>I personally think if you took the power of atheists research ability and combined it with some of the more esoteric and strange you would find there is more out there it is just all the current systems get it slightly wrong.
Me being an Atheist doesn't exclude me from the esoteric. There are lots of thing unexplained and unexplainable by science. I just refuse to call them God.
I agree that the system (deliberately in place) are faulty.
Not credited.
>Then why are the elites getting away with mass genocide?
Because they are "elites".
>What holds them back from killing millions of people?
Clearly nothing. They working on it. Just can't make it too obvious. We are more than them.
>Nothing.
Read above.
>They do what they want because it benefits them.
Because they SATANISTS/CROWLIANS.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
>The Communists are responsible for over 100 million deaths in the 20th Century.
Jews. They claim to believe in the same God you do.
>You think they have no Common sense?
Yes.
>And then people blame God because bad things happen in this world.
And that's equally as retarded.
>Or they deny the existence of God, by saying a good God wouldn't allow such evil to exist.
That is assuming Gods nature and requires you to believe certain things about God to make that assessment.
>But they don't thank God that it isn't worse than it is.
There are no Atheists in a fox hole.
>Hell is merely the absence of God
That's your interpretation. I can tell you it's not the most common image of hell. Most think of fire and brimstone.
But you do you, I don't believe in it either way. kek.
>I was not trying to assign motive to you personally just more as a commentary on the atheists I personally interact with.
Fair. I suspect most Atheists you've talked to hasn't been steeped in conspiracy theories since the age of 12. kek.
I've already explained why I don't believe in a God.
But apart from that I agree with what you're saying.
>Granted I have not really explored hinduism all that much.
You should, it's fascinating.
You IP hopped to post that?
You expect me to know exactly what posts you were referring to without telling me in a conversation where I have ~20 posts?
And honestly I have no idea what you're trying to say, even after you provided context in the form of the posts you referred to.
>In the case of the money as an example or anything that is needed that someone put within your grasp with notify you
(picrel)
>All people are evil.
God created humans evil?
>If it weren't for the Grace of God, we would have all killed each other by now.
So he created us evil and then gave us grace to be good?
Does this make sense to you?
And again, I'm extremely frightened by the admission that you need an authority figure to tell you not to kill people.
I never killed anyone. I haven't even been close, nor do I want to.
>Follow the links back if you really want to know.
Kek. I've been reading all your posts. Your incoherent ramblings won't make more sense if I read it again…
>what if gates or fauci were in the room with you now?
I still don't want to kill anyone…
I don't suffer from bloodlust like you do (assuming from the framing of your question).
It's an unrealistic scenario in any case.
But I will only kill to defend myself, so if they were armed and actively threatening I might have to.
But other than that I believe in a fair trial resulting in a proper death sentence.
Vigilantism only makes things worse.
>Our Justice System has been compromised by the murderers.
Correct.
So what is the plan of action?
Vigilante justice based on emotions or fixing the broken system?
>At what point do you realize they declared war on the people?
Long ago. Doesn't change my stance.
>Anon, there is no way to "fix"
>How about a New System.
>The Old one cannot be fixed.
I'd be fine with that. I just don't want one person, me or anyone else to be the arbiter of justice.
>NPC is triggered, kek
Extremely triggered. Like a gun I think. Bang bang.
>his belief system is challenged
Not even a little bit. But keep dreaming. kek.
>take your vax booster
You first.
>I could actually feel his/xim/xer butthurt thru the fibre optic internet connections
You had a fiber optic internet cable up you butt?
That's some strange behaviour anon.
I triggered you faggots so hard that you are now talking shit behind my back? Holy fucking kek. This is priceless.
Rent free in your heads.
>you are a loser,a coward,a cuck,and have plainly admitted the fact
>you are the malodorous yellow shit on the soles of my jackboots
Got anymore of them insults. They trigger me so delightfully. Kek.
<rent free I tell ya
>faggot with a superiority complex,
Not really, but thanks for admitting that I'm better than you. kek.
>Thanks for the lelz though!
Don't know what that is… but thanks for the keks in return I guess.
>cowardly loser cucks like the multi-poster in this bread refuse to fight and are happy to let others die whilst they hide in safety…
Says the guy who won't tag me and talk shit directly to me, but instead talks shit about me behind my back. So brave. Fucking kek.
Also I specifically stated that I would fight to defend myself. ;)
>That is because you have not yet been hungry enough.
You mis interpreted what I meant. I might not have been clear enough.
Have I ever had the desire to kill? Yes, obviously.
I'm sure if I was hungry enough I would kill to survive. Doesn't change that in general I don't want to.
>the 38+ post" anon" you are responding to is a shill
Oh okay. I'm the shill. Kek. If you say so. I guess we've all been shills at some point.
>Maybe because you have a little bit of God's goodness in your heart.
Sure you can say that. And I will accept it as your belief.
But as I've stated many times this bread (and apparently now makes me a shill…) I don't believe in God so I would attribute that to God but to human kindness.
Most people are not evil, and don't want to hurt anyone. If that is because God made them so, or because that's just general human nature is irrelevant to me.
But if it is the case that God made them so, why does he sometimes create evil people, like psycopaths?
But this goes against the previous point made.
Being that even though I'm Atheist, I might have some of Gods goodness in my heart, seeing as I don't want to "sin" as you call it.
If God just gives people over to "sinful" desires, then how am I not doing those "sinful" things if I don't believe in God?
Maybe, but I still stand with 2 explanations for the same phenomenon, both involving God but in very different ways.
I'm only following the logic presented to me (or attempts at such).
>if you're an atheist you don't believe any of it so what you say about it is meaningless.
If it's meaningless then why ask?
>manipulator
Asking logic based questions is manipulation now? Ok.
Q wants a word with you.
>hateful people get their just desserts.
I'm not sure what you mean. Am I hateful?
Btw. I like how you defended me earlier. Kek. You didn't have to, but seeing his posts laid out like that was pretty funny.
>I will pray that the Holy Spirit of God enters your heart and gives you understanding
Knock yourself out.
But you don't have to go out of your way to save the soul I don't even believe I have.
Made a secular version of your meme.
>What do the atheists so hate religiouis people?
The only hate I've seen here today are the religious people insulting me for voicing an opinion that doesn't fit their world view.
But nice strawman.