Tyb
>God created you with a soul,
In your opinion.
> and there is nothing that you can do about that,
Assuming that your opinion is correct. True. I do not however.
>whether you believe it or not, or whether you believe in Him or not.
I don't.
You asserting shit with where the only sauce is "trust me bro, my old book says so and everyone else I know also blindly follow said book" is not a valid argument.
>"Religion causes wars,
It has.
Also, you read a lot into my meme that wasn't there. Good job.
>therefore we have to get rid of all religious people"
I never said that. But another nice straw man, again.
>What are wars really over?
Petty human feelings. Mainly the feelings of rulers packaged as a consumable for the soldiers. Sometimes over assets and resources, sometimes over vengeance, sometimes a lot of other things among them "You don't submit to my God".
>they have to lie to get "their way"?
Who? The rulers who initiate wars? Yes.
>As IF Gates and his ilk are pro-Peace and refuse the dirty blood money lying on the table (which they arranged for)?
It was not a war fought over religion.
>Didn't the Bushes do 9/11 to start a War ?
Allegedly, yes.
>they tried to pretend it was about religion, blaming it on fanatic Muslims
No, they tried to blame Muslims ONLY, Christians were riled up to defend their country from the Islamic menace.
>Now it makes sense!
Nope, you're spinning a narrative here. But it doesn't work as you intended.
>They try to argue
They? You speaking to me or someone next to me?
>i.e. that they don't actually exist,
It's only due to your dogmatic worldview that you draw that conclusion.
I'm sitting here in front of my PC, I clearly exist. I just don't believe in the concept of a soul…
>But somehow they exist enough to have a argument
Read above.
The brainwashing is indoctrination from birth (most often), in the same way religion is.
>So how could someone who isn't brainwashed only understand the brainwashing by being brainwashed
In the same way as someone can only understand "spirit" by having "spirit".
If you deem mine self contradicting on those grounds, that means yours is equally as self contradicting.
>Yes, but you are only a figment of your own imagination.
No I'm not.
>Who are you?
Anon.
>You're just neurons that fire
No, I'm a system that includes firing neurons.
>, And can be controlled by Klaus S. and his friends
And you are immune because you believe in a skydaddy? Kek.
>You have no free will,
I got as much free will as you do.
> since you are a machines
Animals.
>others are free to program ("in front of a terminal; really?)
Kek, you're a fool if you think you are not easily programmed… You have been programmed by an ancient book for generations.
>You claim to exist, but who or what are you?
Same as you. Anon, Human.
>"Science" clearly states that your feeling of existence, your consciousness is an illusion, a mirgate created by chemical signals and mechanical forces.
I don't care what you assert "science" states.
>Just tell us, why have your handlers programmed you to hate religious people and to try to destroy them?
Again, the only hate I've seen here today is the insults I've received for voicing an opinion that doesn't fit your world view.
>Like blowing out a candle when it's done, right? The flame just goes out?
I don't know. But I would think, yes.
>Your argument seems to be that the only Truth that exists is what you happen to believe.
No. I have not argued truth once.
I freely admit that I don't know.
>And yet that is what you are accusing me of doing.
Because you're the one asserting things and getting pissy when I point out flaws in your logic.
>Some people believe that the World is Flat.
More power to them.
>Some people believe that the World is a Sphere.
More power to them.
>They can't both be correct.
>Only one can be correct.
Correct.
>Just because someone believes something doesn't make it true.
>Just because someone doesn't believe something, doesn't make it untrue.
>The Truth is just the Truth no matter who believe it and who doesn't.
Has been my point from the start.
>So one of us is right and one of us is wrong.
Or none of us is right, life isn't a set of binary choices.
>There either is a God, or there isn't a God.
Well fair, that's a binary choice. And yes, I'm with you so far.
>Are you feeling lucky?
Yes.
>Are you ready to be wrong, if you are wrong?
Yes.
>If I am wrong, I have nothing to lose. I have lived a long pleasant life.
Except for an eternity in paradise and a wasted life worshipping something that wasn't real.
>If you are wrong, you have everything to lose.
Absolutely nothing. I got this life. I don't pine for another. I make this life the best I can. I don't need a carrot on a stick or a rabid dog chasing me to make the best of my life.
And in the end, we both have the same to lose. This life, what comes next comes next.
Finally; I will never submit to a being, if it turns out I'm wrong, that will condemn me for using the free will he gave me to doubt his existence when he doesn't even bother to provide proper evidence.
>it gets old.
Christfagging gets old too, but that's been going on here for 6+ years.
You can handle 2 breads of some countering views.
>but you've decided you want to remain asleep because you don't want Truth to be true.
Because I won't believe in your God? Kek
>you give yourself a lot of credit.
>it just shows you're not a chartible person.
I started by giving you credit. But you rejected it…
>you have to keep harping on the slide.
Filter me then… Filter ID+ then you don't see the replies to me either.
You think you can shame me into stop posting? Kek
>PS: you'll never see me.
I believe you. I don't have a desire to either. It's actually a strange thing of you to bring up.
>You might read my posts.
I read all the posts, so if you post, chances are I will.
>It's not that you don't believe, it's that you've decided that what you don't know or understand CAN'T be true
Incorrect. It's that you've decided that what you "know" or "understand" CAN'T be untrue.
I will say it again. I will freely admit that I don't know. Will you do the same?
>Josh McDowell
Didn't do proper research if he of all things converted to Christianity.
But I know this schtick, they parade around someone claiming that they were a former Atheist but when they start explaining their former mindset (note that I didn't say belief) it immediately becomes clear that it's just a regular Christfag spouting the most unhinged approximation of what an atheist thinks to build strawmen.
kek
>others must not know.
Are you claiming that you KNOW there is a God?
>You have no idea what I believe
You've hade it pretty clear.
>Yes, I KNOW God exists. Not believe, not think, KNOW.
Fair enough. In that case. I don't believe you either. Have a nice day.
>no one reads all the posts.
>there are too many of them.
Hyperbolic statements are hyperbolic.
>not trying to
>you shouldn't do it
>post about something else.
No I see you're not trying to anything… kek
I don't follow yours or any others decree.
>I understood you meant 'encounter' when you said 'see', it's common.
I never said "see" you did.
>I said that just to have something more to say and deflect from the whole stupidity of our encounter.
Careful not to slide anon.
>I don't care if you 'give me credit'. you're not a bank
But you care that I give myself credit? Sounds very bank like.
Shall we do our regular dance or should I just post the one I ended on last and we call it a day?
Come back to me when you've read the next answer from the one you pointed out from my post…
This has become the new /pol/ with a splash of /b/ and /x/ and possibly other subpages I don't know about.
They broke the place to drive off Q. That's how we ended up here.