But why would the Catholic Church hunt down the Knights Templar if they were all part of the same mystery schools behind closed doors? Different agendas?
This is a common issue we run into, it's hard to decipher the real motive behind the actions. Every story is so biased and skewed to one perspective.
I believe you are correct. The inversion of their signs seems to be a sign of rebellion. Salvador Dali once painted the Masonic initiation with the opposite leg rolled up and the eyes uncovered.
>It seems to say that this all started because the Atlantis traders and missionaries said to the primitive people that they'll return, but then Atlantis exploded, and no one ever came back.. so we just made up myths and are still waiting.
Assuming that Atlantis was a real place with real people; it would explain all the really strange technology you read about in ancient texts.
Physical evidence of ancient atomic wars has been found at various locations. The biggest "natural" deposit of silica glass on earth is in the Sahara desert. An astrochemist, Christian Koeberl claims the only thing hot enough to create this natural formation would've been a meteorite, yet there is no evidence of an impact crater in satellite images.
The Ancient Egyptians would collect silica glass for jewelry and called it the "Rock of God". Egyptians believed the silica glass came from the Pyramid Wars between Horus and Seth.
King Tut's glass scarab was made of this same silica glass and when tested the fission track dates of the glass indicate that it is at least 28 million years old. It is considered a scientific enigma.
Well if you think about it, that's not such a crazy reality. In our text book history, every time a civilization experiences a cataclysm, we lose decades or centuries of technological advancement. Ancient Rome had running water while Medieval London used shit buckets. Preservation of knowledge is difficult in times of societal collapse.
>Strange. Hannibal probably could have swept through Rome but instead his army fell apart not so long after winning this epic battle.
I assure you that is not the case. Hannibal was up against a man considered to be the greatest general in history; Scipio Africanus.
Scipio is very important to know if you're looking into the Punic wars. He changed the playing field in battle completely.
"His main achievements were during the Second Punic War where he is best known for defeating Hannibal at the final battle at Zama in 202 BC, one of the feats that earned him the agnomen Africanus. Prior to this battle (near modern Zama, Tunisia) Scipio also conquered Carthage's holdings in the Iberian peninsula, culminating in the Battle of Ilipa (near Alcalá del Río, Spain) in 206 BC against Hannibal's brother Mago Barca."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scipio_Africanus
>Could it be that Hannibal, the god damn military GENIUS that he was, thought of a better more ambitious plan for his people?
He was forced back to the drawing board by a superior military tactician. I'm sure his plans weren't to retire and be a statesman. A military genius knows when to change strategies.
As they say, "When in Rome…".
And look what happened to Scipio Africanus in his later years;
"In his later years, he was tried for bribery and treason, unfounded charges that were only meant to discredit him before the public. Disillusioned by the ingratitude of his peers, Scipio left Rome and withdrew from public life."
That's no way to treat a man considered THE greatest general in history. Do you think maybe Hannibal was out for revenge over the only man that ever defeated him on the battlefield? Maybe…just maybe…
Do you find it strange that TO THIS VERY DAY Scipio's role in the downfall of Hannibal is still downplayed? Almost as if Hannibal did win in the end…
Here's a summary of what I have gathered from these threads.
Y is the keystone.
Y = Cult of the Sun/Bull >Deity changes physical form based on constellation aligned with the sun in the great year.
Cannabilism and child sacrifice are common in ritualistic practice.
Known for infiltrating nations and degrading from within until societal collapse is inevitable. >"If you can't beat them, join them!" "When in Rome!"
Once target nation collapses, the symbolic Phoenix rises from the ashes and the cult moves on to the next society.
Most likely formed in Canaan under the guise of a Jewish tribe. >i.e. - Gehenna - Child Sacrifice - Other Jewish tribes condemned these acts.
Most likely founded the Phoenician Empire and created the western alphabet. >Y is the keystone. - What is Y in the Phoenician alphabet?
Worship to ancient gods like Enki/Moloch/Baal/Lucifer/Astarte and many more of essentially the same gods regurgitated in different form.
Many secret societies work for or with this ancient cult. >Masons, Knights Templar, Jesuits, Skull & Bones, etc.
Symbology of the cult are found in most cultures. The cult most likely influenced some of the greatest empires in history. >Phoenician, Minoan, Roman, American, etc.
Common cult symbol examples - The phoenix, the bull, the all seeing eye, pyramid, obelisk, and ram.
But they have many more symbols, handshakes, and codes. These will be their downfall.
Common signs that your society has been manipulated by the ancient Cult of the Sun:
You praise a sun god >Son of God
The form of your deity is determined by what constellation is aligned with the sun. >Jesus = Pisces = Fish = Present Constellation Sun Orientation
Your culture appropriates pagan rituals >Christmas, Valentine's Day, Easter, etc.
Common social degradation >Compromised moral values, child prostitution, slavery, etc.
An egocentric perspective is common among the populace. >social media
Your nation has a strong naval influence in the world. >sea fairing people
Social warfare instead of a flourishing social community. >BLM - KKK - ANTIFA - NAZI = DIVIDE & CONQUER
This does not necessarily mean Jesus was some false prophet from the occult. Rather I believe that his intention was to unveil the occult and he was foiled by bad actors. Then they hollywood Jesus and he was re-appropriated to make people worship the sun god that the occult has always tricked people into worshipping since time written.
>darkness to light
>did you post this in the general as well?
I posted a variation of this summary in the last bread. But I'm fine tuning it with every bake.
>As for Jesus, I dunno.. I used to be religious.. then I considered myself an atheist.. and these days I'm so dizzy I'm not even sure. But I really feel like the Catholic Church was a "Phoenician" creation to turn the Gnostic Personal Jesus into a hierarchical king that's so far above you you can only access his forgiveness through a priest in confession. Confession.. hahahaha! Tell me all your dark secrets, son, I will forgive you!
I completely agree, my experience has been similar. I don't know what the answer is. As a former Catholic, I feel like organized religion in general is a really bad idea.
I assume by "we" you mean Christian? I'm not claiming you personally are praising a "sun god" rather the symbolism is used as a signal to others in the know.
The intention behind your preacher/priest's message/actions during his public teachings is important. The subsequent energy you give to that sermon can be used for any purpose he pleases…that is if you believe in that kind of stuff. I'm speaking from experience as a former Catholic. Have you ever read into Papal magic?
>Sumeria, Babylon pre-dated practices in Caanan
One could argue the region of Canaan was actually ruled by Sumerian kings at one point, but we don't really have a lot of recorded history to go off of until Canaan and though the practices pre-date this civilization, it seems to take on the form of an organized religion among the Hebrew tribes.
We only know bits and pieces of info about the Minoan empire but we know that pagan rituals happened
>Phoenician culture was early written language but disappeared, likely having been conquered by one or more of their neighbors or trading partners
The early written language of Phoenician culture and their trading system are all that honestly matter about the Phoenicians in relation to tracking this ancient cult. They have a lasting mark throughout western culture and they're a good identifier of occult activity.
I don't necessarily disagree with anything you've said but I'm painting with a broader strokes than you is all. We're trying to get the big picture here. Your information is educational, relevant and appreciated but a word of caution; don't get lost in the details. We're trying to cover the history of humankind here.
*We only know bits and pieces of info about the Minoan empire but we know that pagan rituals happened. Trying to figure out the details of what led to their demise is irrelevant to the bigger picture. It's the same strategy over and over and over again. A phoenix rises from the ashes. What more do you need to know about their demise? We know how these people operate.
Any books you'd recommend on the topic? All I hear are ghost stories about these books in the corner of a dusty unknown library.
I've been mostly enjoying the old hits, Book of Enoch, Emerald Tablets of Thoth, The Secret of Secrets, Necronomicon, Prose Edda, etc. etc. etc.
The one thing these books all have in common; they all claim to hold mystery knowledge. Any more book suggestions like these would be great.
>they served him well once he finally joined
Do you mean to say that Manly P. Hall's works were appreciated by Masons because it's inaccurate and well done?
I say this because; Why would the Masons appreciate his work if it was an accurate source that unveiled their mystery knowledge? I don't mean to sound combative if it comes off that way, I'm just an asshole.
>The children here can't make a distinction because the have no familiarity and weak understand of anyone but themselves.
>Very introspective ( maybe video games DO affect their perspective of others)
Oh boy, you're really reaching with that last part. Do you remember what board you're on? This is 8chan friend.
Curtail that "them vs. us" talk. I've never seen that sentiment in these threads. If that were truly how some felt, we'd all still be yelling about "the Jews!" on here.
You cannot ignore the fact that Freemasonry is built on deception and corruption at the very core of it's existence. Any decent human being within the lodges is simply there to help cover up the misdeeds of the powerful at the top.
Let's not forget the fact that humans are multi–faceted. Everyone claiming their mason uncle/brother/mother are/were great people, do not know every mask that individual wears. Maybe they were good, maybe they weren't. But Freemasonry will always be seen as a red flag among the common man.
Not to mention, Women of the Eastern Star is especially controversial. The fact that you think anything good comes of that branch is truly mind boggling to me.
Honestly I think all this Mason talk is getting off topic. Maybe there should be a separate thread for that. We're tracing an ancient Babylonian mystery cult in here.
You need to lurk more. Every time you post, you spew hatred and divisive comments. You don't re-read crumbs, you don't even seem to know the common Q crumbs that everyone here knows. The matrix analogy is one of Q's most famous crumbs. LURK MOAR SHILL
"The Roman historian Diodorus and other ancient historians gave graphic accounts of Carthaginian child sacrifice: “There was in their city a bronze image of Cronus, extending its hands, palms up and sloping towards the ground, so that each of the children when placed thereon rolled down and fell into a sort of gaping pit filled with fire.”
Diodorus even said that some citizens who bought children from poor people and reared them specially for sacrifice believed misfortunes had resulted because they had not sacrificed their own offspring."
https://www.rawstory.com/2014/01/its-not-just-ancient-roman-propaganda-carthaginians-really-did-sacrifice-children/
Great contribution to the thread. Real happy to have you here.
Details like this get me thinking about what positive affects these people must've been seeing after sacrificing their children. It doesn't sound like everyone involved in the ritual sacrifice is there for the sadistic pleasure of human suffering. They must've seen some overwhelming tangible evidence of a positive outcome.
Maybe those in control had what was considered mystery knowledge about agriculture. Is it possible that in a place like Carthage, the few in charge allowed crops to fail until their sadistic cravings were fulfilled?
Maybe those at the top took a sick pleasure in watching the most notable of the nation willingly sacrifice their children(future competition) to them in the name of their false god.
If those interested in this topic aren't watching Robert Sepehr's videos, you're doing yourself a disservice. He's a wealth of knowledge on this subject. His videos lately have been extremely relevant.