I think I figured out what is meant by the "apples vs bunch" post.
It's about the concept of "blue degrees" vs "black degrees", right?
Blue Degree: The lower levels of the group. Mostly decent people but are clueless to the corruption within the order. Become unwitting accomplices to cover ups of bad apple activities. Victims of exploited trust.
Black Degrees: The guys on top. Where the bulk of the corruption and evil within a masonic group stems from.
This is something that has come up regarding pizzagate a few times. This is why freemason groups can be a bitch to investigate.
That stuff about CIA being "clowns". Was that a reference to Royal Order of Jesters? (Jester can be considered a sub type of clown).