Anonymous ID: fbb677 Sept. 11, 2023, 1:19 p.m. No.19531609   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1625

 

I've rented many Teslas this year. I have never paid for charging. Who does? Who should EV drivers thank for that generosity? What happens when they don't want to pay for my EV's fuel any more? How will the inevitable end of that subsidy affect the economics of fueling an EV away from home? How will the ending of the outrageous $7,500 price subsidy that every new Tesla owner receives affect new car prices and resale values for current owners?

 

Other charging networks are in "Pirate Mode" with regard to pricing. There is one fast (350 kw) charging station for the Polestar (and most other EV's) in our city (we have found). It's expensive, not significantly cheaper than gas powered car efficiency and depending on your timing and the vendor, perhaps more expensive - one article experience a prices 3 times that of car with a 426 Hemi motor.

 

These questions apply to non-Telsa charging operators, as well, for the same reasons, as they are often subsidized by EV makers and perhaps (I suspect) Big Brother, too. And if you don't have a super fast charger, you're looking at 3-4 hours or more to cover a couple days' normal driving around town.

 

We looked low mileage, used Teslas. They come with no $7500.00 rebate? Why not? The only thing I can think of is that the clever car lot buys it new, gets the subsidy, and then sells it with a few miles on it (Like New!) for a few dollars under the new price; perhaps shoppers are the wiser, perhaps not, but the takeaway for us is that, when you, me, and all our neighbors taxpayers are forced to subsidies our other neighbors' purchases, the real value of things is distorted leaving us with incomplete, inaccurate, or skewed economic information related to a major purchase.

 

We love the way these cars feel and perform, but the economic unknowns, along with bandit mentality encouraged by subsidies on both the cars and the charging infrastucture, leaves uncomfortable with making the purchase. Not only that, but getting something free from the government has always made me uneasy and made me feel something like an accomplice to theft and fraud. It leaves me feeling dirty.

Anonymous ID: fbb677 Sept. 11, 2023, 1:25 p.m. No.19531655   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>1662

>>19531625

 

Have never paid for a Tesla charge. For the other ones (Polestar - also a great car) - I have to pay up at the EVGo "station" unless I want to sit there for 4 hours.

 

The math is a little fuzzy due to lack of stats in the Polestar (whereas the Tesla shows you all the numbers on efficiency and performance) - but it looks like about 50 mpg gasoline equivalent in the Polestar. That's nice, but it's not earthshaking and doesn't really make it compelling for us, do to the inconvenience of the charge and my own personal distate for paying for corruption.