Anonymous ID: 8d4b8e Sept. 16, 2023, 10:48 a.m. No.19562173   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2226

>>19562165

calm your tits. Privacy first off is not a right I am not saying it should not be but some protection about privacy should be granted however she was in a public place during a public function hence depending on the state a public action and recording is fair game.

Anonymous ID: 8d4b8e Sept. 16, 2023, 10:54 a.m. No.19562206   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2216

>>19562196

so if you are recorded on camera your expectation of privacy is null and void, IE ambush journalism. Because I thought that was only possible because of one party consent states because if it happened even in another state with the assumption of privacy like the under cover videos James Okeefe does, that would be a problem, because it was said under the assumption of privacy and not recording.

Anonymous ID: 8d4b8e Sept. 16, 2023, 10:59 a.m. No.19562238   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2265 >>2296

>>19562216

you seem to be missing either intentionally or because perhaps I am not stating it clearly but in reference to james o keefe the undercover stuff like when people go on dates would only be able to be done in a single party consent state, other wise it would be illegal. The issue with Lauren is she got her tits fondled in public and there is no assumption. Again the James stuff that is done with undercover dates specifically would only be able to be done if they were not required to get consent from the other party which some states still enforce.

Anonymous ID: 8d4b8e Sept. 16, 2023, 11:12 a.m. No.19562316   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2351 >>2368 >>2370 >>2394

>>19562296

 

Ok so the caviat I just looked it up is if the person recording it such as like on a date is the person recording it, but this does make an interesting argument since it seems the person who is doing the recording has to be participating in the conversation, which in some ways would make James O keefe and his recordings illegal since he is the one who is actually doing the recording and watching as it is a set up and sting. You are correct that anyone else in the restaurant could record them legally as they are in public. I think we are agreeing but the details change depending on who is recording and who is participating. Lauren just got caught being kinky in public.

Anonymous ID: 8d4b8e Sept. 16, 2023, 11:24 a.m. No.19562388   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>2413

>>19562351>>19562368

 

Answering your second thought first, I think its a good reasonable question about unreasonable search and seizure to, lie about who you are in a private conversation, causing you to possibly perjure yourself, I think personally both are an issue depending on how they are utilized. Case by case but That is part of the problem with the judicial system you have to fight it just to prove something that they over looked in their poorly constructed law. He is working as a journo but, if he is secretly recording with cameras utilizing actors to go on dates with marks, that seems to be an infringement on the other persons rights. It would also stop a lot of whistleblowers sadly because this is how this information is usually received, but again who is doing the recording that is the problem with the law its all based on semantics and nuance of language to manipulate.

Anonymous ID: 8d4b8e Sept. 16, 2023, 11:33 a.m. No.19562441   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19562413

What I am talking about would fall under wire tapping laws. The reason I thought those existed was because of the assumption of privacy in conversations. Now if you were in a public park and using a device to over hear someones conversation and record that, I think you can call that ok, but with the wire tapping laws the way I understand them about recording people, the person doing the recording has to be participating, so if an organization or group is recording will that same protection be granted. Since a group is not an individual participating. Perhaps the public angle gives some loophole also as opposed to maybe recording someone on the phone or something like that.

Anonymous ID: 8d4b8e Sept. 16, 2023, 11:45 a.m. No.19562513   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>19562486

That is the biggest problem I can figure out the ways these things are broken, sure they are what if scenarios but that its the problem with the law, they never think what else the law does only that it exists. System needs total rework.