Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 2:54 p.m. No.19604387   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4409 >>4430 >>4552 >>4654 >>4756 >>4794

September 24, 2023

Washington Post gobsmacked over its own poll result on Trump soaring approval– and hastens to tell its readers it may be an 'outlier'

 

By Monica Showalter

 

It's got to be tough to be the leaders at the Washington Post, water-carriers for the Biden administration.

 

Along with many others, they took a poll to see how his re-election prospects are going … and they didn't like the results.

 

A Washington Post-ABC News poll finds President Biden struggling to gain approval from a skeptical public, with dissatisfaction growing over his handling of the economy and immigration, a rising share saying the United States is doing too much to aid Ukraine in its war with Russia and broad concerns about his age as he seeks a second term.

 

Biden and former president Donald Trump appear headed for a rematch of their 2020 contest, although more than 3 in 5 Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents say they would prefer a nominee other than the president. But Biden’s advisers have argued that he is the strongest Democrat for 2024 and those who wish for someone else share no consensus on who that should be, with 8 percent naming Vice President Harris, 8 percent naming Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and 20 percent saying they prefer “just someone else.”

 

The Post-ABC poll shows Biden trailing Trump by 10 percentage points at this early stage in the election cycle, although the sizable margin of Trump’s lead in this survey is significantly at odds with other public polls that show the general election contest a virtual dead heat. The difference between this poll and others, as well as the unusual makeup of Trump’s and Biden’s coalitions in this survey, suggest it is probably an outlier.

 

Some of them are very bad indeed for Joe Biden's re-election prospects – a 20-point lead among younger voters, ages 18-35 for President Trump, a 10-point lead in the general election, a near-half of minority voters choosing President Trump, and all this as the Biden administration doubles down to destroy Trump through a string of junk court cases which they hope will ruin him even if they will not win.

 

It had to be an outlier, right? The Post said so, and it was its own poll. They went up and down the piece trying to diminish the importance of every finding they had in it, and it was pitiful. Yet comparable direction-of-country and job approval ratings were seen, in their past polls and in competitor polls, suggesting they got the sentiment right. But there seems to be a turn in the numbers as the rest of the polling, both their own, and others, shows.

 

That suggests a crisis, an insurmountable lead that even rigging and cheating isn't going to be able to fix for them. And if Trump does get elected as a result of this doomsday poll, it means the death of the deep state – and their own role in it.

 

No wonder they are covering their eyes and telling their readers not to believe it. It's the sad result of a poll, an indicator, so bleak it amounts to a tolling bell on their prospects.

 

If it happens, it's going to be quite a festival of weeping and gnashing teeth.

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/09/washington_post_goggles_over_its_own_poll_result_on_trump_soaring_approval__and_belittles_it_to_readers_as_an_outlier.html

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/24/biden-trump-poll-2024-election

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/tablet/2023/09/24/sept-15-20-2023-washington-post-abc-news-poll/

Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 2:56 p.m. No.19604397   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4552 >>4654 >>4756 >>4794

‘Tough One to Spin’: ABC’s Martha Raddatz and Panel React to Poll Shocker Showing Trump Leading Biden By 10

 

The shocking new ABC/Washington News poll showing President Joe Biden trailing former President Donald Trump by a whopping 10 points dominated discussion on This Week Sunday.

 

Host Martha Raddatz kicked off a panel segment midway through the show with some blunt analysis.

 

“Whatever caveats, whether that is an outlier, that’s a tough one to spin,” Raddatz said.

 

But that didn’t stop former DNC chair Donna Brazile from trying.

 

“It’s a tough one to spin, Martha,” Brazile conceded. “But I don’t believe Democrats should be sitting in a panic room.”

 

Brazile went on to argue that Democrats should “get back to the kitchen table” and start talking to people. Raddatz, though, pushed back.

 

“The message may be out there, but they’re not feeling it,” Raddatz said.

 

“There’s more than enough time to turn all of this bad weather around and go out there and make your case to the American people,” Brazile replied.

 

Raddatz later turned the discussion to President Biden’s age.

 

“Obviously, he can’t do anything about that,” Raddatz said. “But he does keep saying, just look at me and people look at him.”

 

“And this poll is the result of what they see,” said Alex Burns, Politico’s head of news. “That when you when you have an unfixable issue like that. Right. You cannot make the president younger. You can change his appearance on the margins, but not by a lot.”

 

Burns added, “Maybe [Democrats are] right to be relatively confident that they can take on Donald Trump. But when you have a summer of Biden on mixed messaging and the result at the end of that is the numbers that you see in this poll, that should be pretty alarming for Democrats.”

 

Watch above, via ABC.

 

https://www.mediaite.com/news/tough-one-to-spin-abcs-martha-raddatz-and-panel-react-to-poll-shocker-showing-trump-leading-biden-by-10/

Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 2:58 p.m. No.19604410   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4421 >>4552 >>4654 >>4756 >>4794

PANIC: ABC Hyperventilates Over Poll Showing Trump Beating Biden BIG

 

On Sunday, ABC News released a poll in conjunction with The Washington Post and the results were apocalyptically bad for Joe Biden's reelection chances against former President Donald Trump. Aside from the Jimmy Carter-like disapproval ratings on the economy and inflation, Biden is now losing to Trump by 9 points in a head-to-head matchup. Of course, ABC's This Week had a near-panic attack when reporting the numbers. It was fun to watch.

 

"These numbers are simply staggering for the sitting President," ABC political director Rick Klein told co-moderator Martha Raddatz.

 

Reading out the poll's findings, Klein reported: "44 percent of people in this poll say they are not as well off as they were at the start of the Biden administration 2 1/2 years ago. Those are the worst numbers that we've seen in our ABC News Washington Post polling."

 

"He's been talking about how inflation has been easing, but people aren't buying it. You covered some of the reasons why. Gas prices, food prices, grocery prices and the like," Klein added. "Right now on the big picture in the economy, 74 percent of the country, that's about three-quarters of Americans who say the economy is either not so good or downright poor."

 

Raddatz jumped in to note that "it's not just the state of the nation or the policies that are giving people pause on President Biden. It seems to be the man himself."

 

"Three-quarters of Americans, 74 percent, say that he is too old to effectively serve in a second term. That compares to about 50 percent who say the same around Donald Trump," Klein told Raddatz.

 

He noted that it's not just Republicans or independents. Democrats feel similarly about Biden's age.

 

Klein moved onto the "most startling number" in the poll which found "51 percent for Donald Trump over Joe Biden. That is a nine-point edge. Now that's only a couple of points difference from our last poll in May, but it is significantly different than most recent polls."

 

Now Klein was quick to point out that voters' approval of the Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade was underwater, but both Klein and Raddatz noted that this was the only good news in the poll for Biden or the Democrat Party.

 

The transcript is below:

 

https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kevin-tober/2023/09/24/panic-abc-hyperventilates-over-poll-showing-trump-beating-biden-big

Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 3:04 p.m. No.19604436   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4552 >>4654 >>4756 >>4794

Poll showing Trump up 10 points over Biden for 2024 election criticized

 

A new Washington Post-ABC poll showing Joe Biden trailing his presidential predecessor Donald Trump by 10 percentage points was excoriated by leading political pollster Larry Sabato.

 

Noting that the pollsters themselves cautioned that their survey was an outlier, Sabato – the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia – called the decision to release it “ridiculous”.

 

Ignore the Washington Post–ABC poll,” Sabato wrote on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter. “How could you even publish a poll so absurd on its face? Will be a lingering embarrassment for you.” He added: “Just plain embarrassing – for them.”

 

The New York Times’ chief political analyst Nate Cohn also criticized the poll that said Trump was ahead of Biden in the 2024 White House race.

 

Referring to a Post-ABC poll in May that found Trump was up seven percentage points on Biden, which was similarly inconsistent with most polling, Cohn wrote on X: “It’s really really hard to release outlying poll results, so you’ve got to give credit to ABC/Post here, but I do have a fairly major quibble with ABC/Post here: if you release consecutive ‘outlying’ poll results … you don’t get to dismiss your results.

 

“If it happens twice in a row in the same race, it’s clear that this is the result of some element of your approach, and you either need to decide you’re good with it and defend it or you need to go home.”

 

The Washington Post acknowledged its survey was not in line with most polling, which generally finds that the Democratic incumbent Biden and the former Republican president Trump would be in a close, competitive race if they faced each other in the 2024 election.

 

The Post wrote in its analysis: “The … poll shows Biden trailing Trump by 10 percentage points at this early stage in the election cycle, although the sizable margin of Trump’s lead in this survey is significantly at odds with other public polls that show the general election contest a virtual dead heat.

 

“The difference between this poll and others, as well as the unusual makeup of Trump’s and Biden’s coalitions in this survey, suggests it is probably an outlier.”

 

Despite the criticisms, at least one person stood by the poll results, with host Martha Raddatz saying on Sunday’s ABC This Week: “Whatever caveats, whether that is an outlier, that’s a tough one to spin.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/24/washington-post-abc-poll-trump-10-points-over-biden

Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 3:10 p.m. No.19604454   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4552 >>4654 >>4756 >>4794

Washington Post calls its own poll showing Trump beating Biden by 10 points an 'outlier'

 

Biden touts economic progress as polls show the president is losing ground with voters

 

FOX News White House correspondent Jacqui Heinrich details President Biden's claims of economic progress as his support falls among key constituencies on 'Special Report.'

 

An ABC/Washington Post poll that found former President Trump ahead of President Biden by 10 points among registered voters in a hypothetical rematch was deemed an "outlier" by the Post on Sunday.

 

Some criticized the Post and said they were dismissing the poll, published on Sunday, as it was very unfavorable towards the president.

 

"The Post-ABC poll shows Biden trailing Trump by 10 percentage points at this early stage in the election cycle, although the sizable margin of Trump’s lead in this survey is significantly at odds with other public polls that show the general election contest a virtual dead heat. The difference between this poll and others, as well as the unusual makeup of Trump’s and Biden’s coalitions in this survey, suggest it is probably an outlier," The Washington Post's write-up of the poll said.

 

However, ABC News' report on their results did not suggest it was an outlier.

 

An NBC News poll published Sunday showed the two were tied in a hypothetical rematch, 46% to 46%.

 

Other recent polls from the last couple of months have also showed the two tied in a hypothetical rematch.

 

ABC News noted that the support for Trump in a hypothetical rematch was not a significant increase from their last ABC/Washington Post poll.

 

"Head-to-head in a hypothetical November 2024 matchup, Trump has 51% support while Biden has 42% numerically up 3 points for Trump and down 2 points for Biden from an ABC/Post poll in February, shifts that are not statistically significant," the ABC write-up said. "There's even less change from the most recent ABC/Post poll in May, which had the race at 49-42% (again with a different, but comparable, question wording). Still, with Trump inching over 50% and other polls showing a closer contest – a close look is warranted."

 

FOX News contributor Joe Concha said the poll was being "dismissed" by the media and suggested that calls for President Biden to drop out of the race might increase if more polls show Trump ahead.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-calls-own-poll-showing-trump-beating-biden-ten-outlier

Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 3:13 p.m. No.19604472   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4495

This poll will (and already is) be dismissed as an outlier by the Post itself & will be today by a big chunk of the media. But if one more poll comes out showing Trump with even half this lead, the calls for Biden to drop out will be as loud as a Seahawks home game from the left.

https://twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1705908277412831249

 

The Washington Post just published a poll with Donald Trump up 10 points on Joe Biden. Ten points! Last week their top columnist said Biden shouldn’t run. I don’t think this timing is a coincidence. The Democrat propagandists are coming for Joe.

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1705809157369077805

 

Looking forward to the Sunday shows after that ABC poll with Trump +10 over Biden

https://twitter.com/ScottJenningsKY/status/1705898687308632391

 

 

NATIONAL POLL: ABC/WP (A)

 

PRES:

(R) Trump 52% (+10)

(D) Biden 42%

 

Independents

(R) Trump 52 (+13)

(D) Biden 39%

——

GOP PRES:

Trump 54% (+39)

DeSantis 15%

Haley 7%

Pence 6%

Scott 4%

Christie 3%

Ramaswamy 3%

——

ABC/WP (A) | 890 RV | 9/15-20

 

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1705803370756182271

Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 3:16 p.m. No.19604485   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4552 >>4654 >>4756 >>4794

Donald J. Trump

 

@realDonaldTrump

 

NATIONAL POLL: ABC/WP (A)

 

PRES:

(R) Trump 52% (+10)

(D) Biden 42%

 

Independents

(R) Trump 52 (+13)

(D) Biden 39%

——

GOP PRES:

Trump 54% (+39)

DeSantis 15%

Haley 7%

Pence 6%

Scott 4%

Christie 3%

Ramaswamy 3%

——

ABC/WP (A)890 RV9/15-20

 

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1705803370756182271

 

 

Sep 24, 2023, 12:45 AM

 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/111118300082286799

Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 3:19 p.m. No.19604499   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4537

Tom Bevan

@TomBevanRCP

Updated with ABC/WP and NBC, Trump leads Biden by 1.1% in the RCP National Average.

 

https://twitter.com/TomBevanRCP/status/1705947119486402680

 

 

 

 

 

 

General Election: Trump vs. Biden

 

Presidential Betting Odds

 

Biden vs. Trump 2020 Polls | Clinton vs. Trump 2016 Polls

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html

Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 3:38 p.m. No.19604554   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4586

>>19604481

you can make a heaven out of hell

or a hell out of heaven

 

it is your responsibility, how you choose to direct your attention

 

just as it is mine

i find you to be an irritating distraction

no offense

filturd

Anonymous ID: f0e4fc Sept. 24, 2023, 3:42 p.m. No.19604573   🗄️.is 🔗kun   >>4619

Donald J. Trump ReTruthed

 

Ronny Jackson

@RepRonnyJackson

Mar 30

Alvin Bragg is a NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT to our justice system. President Trump has been proven to have done NO wrong. This is nothing more than a political stunt to prevent Trump from becoming President in 2024!

 

Mar 30, 2023, 6:38 PM

https://truthsocial.com/@RepRonnyJackson/posts/110114629294232061