Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 5:08 a.m. No.19727735   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7743

>>19727730

Not true. Not true at all, actually. 40% of men and 80% of all women that have ever existed have reproduced. You know what that means, right? It means that marriage is actually population control.

 

Take a minute to mesh that one together.

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 5:16 a.m. No.19727768   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7793

>>19727743

Lessons from history and science to help guide our today, and each day forward:

-No one person actually owns another. Marriage is institutionalized possession of someone else.

-Women have had more than one father of their children throughout the entirety of human history because a woman seeks to diversify the genes of her offspring as part of her "code". The reason for this is ensuring healthy offspring for her own, and for future generations.

-Women pick the men more fit to reproduce with. The men that don't get a mate pursue other endeavors.

 

The future? It's pretty damned bright, actually.

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 5:24 a.m. No.19727797   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7812 >>7825

>>19727773

Let's consider that the problem is so well embedded into the citizenry in Gaza that clearing a majority of the region is the only solution. That means you still have to have an ideological purge in the surviving citizenry that hasn't been radicalized, yet, by forcing Israel to accept them all as citizens. Prop up all the women and children in spectacular homes, and give them access to the best secular education available.

 

If this is what's happening, and Gaza is rebuilt, and these victims of terrorism as a state institution are made whole x1000, it might actually be the best thing that's happened to that region in a couple thousand years.

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 5:31 a.m. No.19727820   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7828 >>7880

>>19727793

-You already have welfare queens and kings. The problem is the stigma of a society providing for the givers of life as being welfare queens and the providers of care/nurturing to future generations.

-You already have men and women cheating on each other. Instead of seeing it as cheating, see it for what it is. 60,000+ years of human sexual evolution and biodiversity at work.

-You already have "cucks" that don't want to participate in the gene pool. Give them what they want and keep the rape rates down.

 

Or, you can keep fighting what you see as an issue from your perspective of conservatism. Humans used to be much more free than they are now.

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 5:36 a.m. No.19727844   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7856 >>7864 >>7886

>>19727825

I think we've gotten to the point where even the citizenry in Gaza would embrace this solution as the terrorist threat faces imminent doom. It's either that, or Jesus comes down from the cloud in a fury and does it himself.

 

>>19727828

Well, ethical farming should make a real comeback. Other than that, I'm not sure what all this projection is about.

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 5:49 a.m. No.19727908   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>7963

>>19727880

>You pay for your biological kids and I'll pay for mine.

You still don't get it, do you? A nation that provides for its own doesn't create scenarios where resources to fought over. It creates solutions to these problems so that humans can continue being humans. If our government has the means to provide for every contractor of the machines of war, then it has the means to redistribute that money to every woman and child in the country.

 

Men and women should not share the same pool of resources unless they want to. The current arrangement is just another tool used to divide and control everyone, and the conflicts lead to people thinking they own each other (they don't).

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 6:16 a.m. No.19728058   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8064 >>8066 >>8132 >>8208

>>19728026

-Fathers should never be denied access to their children outside of cases of abuse.

-Women should not be shamed for the way God made them.

-Children should not be made to suffer because of the perceptions of those that wish to control others with false doctrines and failed laws.

 

Not saying there won't be monogamous couples because there always will be. Just saying it won't be the default if we're working towards actually freeing people and their minds/lives. All the "problems" of society tell you all the institutions that are failures based on ideals that don't work within human nature. People need to stop trying to confine other people through their projections, perceptions, and institutions that run contrary to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. You want a baby boom and the valuation of life? This is how you do it.

 

>>19728029

Without women and children there is no USA. No other country for that matter, either.

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 6:27 a.m. No.19728128   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8163

>>19728096

For someone taking such issue with an anon with great ideas on a basket weaving forum you sure are assumptive of anon's life experiences. Perhaps if these women were given more resources without concern they'd have raised actual productive, happy, and healthy kids. Instead our current arrangement has relegated us to the all-too-often rare "against all odds success story" of the chosen few that are propped up for the poor to worship.

 

Turn it upside down on it's head and the problem will solve itself.

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 6:30 a.m. No.19728156   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8177

>>19728132

>with some moral failing of a woman.

I never said it did. All I said was the institution doesn't reflect human nature. The evidence is in the 50% ~~success~~ failure rate of marriage.

 

>it had to do with the high rate of mortality that some outfits experienced in warfare.

A problem soon to be solved which will create more competition in the dating market. All good things.

 

Presenting ideas that go beyond the scope of the end of one's own nose creates more breathing room for the future. There's a lot of room, out there, for a better way of life for all.

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 6:33 a.m. No.19728179   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8194 >>8225

>>19728163

Heinlein hasn't discovered anon.

Perhaps I'm just a magical unicorn?

Seriously doubt it.

 

If you think about the totality of what the USA has been directly involved with and the sheer amount of resources being spent to fix it, you'll suddenly realize there's no reason for anyone to want for anything, and forcing that to be the case is the gravest of offenses against humanity.

 

You fuckers do actually believe in Jesus, right?

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 6:39 a.m. No.19728213   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun

>>19728177

  1. Human nature.

https://twitter.com/CandiceHorbacz/status/1710426283023221004

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/37926/of-all-humans-ever-born-did-most-men-not-become-fathers

 

  1. That's an opinion. If you aren't familiar with the 80/20 rule, then your version of what's jaded is nowhere near reality. This might also be an "opinion", but the "if you only knewโ€ฆ" meme does apply, here.

 

  1. OK, I'll rephrase. "We've tried every measure of control and they've all failed. Why do we actually set people free from all bondage and let people live their lives?"

 

And as far as all those that have fallen in wars fighting for other men to continue the old guard of control and exercising power over others? Anon always has been, and always will be, honored by their sacrifice. I hope to be a part of building a better world where such a thing as "sacrifice" becomes a terrible word.

Anonymous ID: 9491db Oct. 13, 2023, 6:49 a.m. No.19728266   ๐Ÿ—„๏ธ.is ๐Ÿ”—kun   >>8295

>>19728225

Your current implementation of governance and perceptions of how society should work forces impoverished families to live in squalor. Everyone before us has handed us an atrocity that once had the potential to be the greatest republic to have ever existed. The division of wealth and health between the haves and have nots has never been greater, and you advocate for more of the same, if not even more?

 

You can't purge those that won't pursue more. You also can't whip them into betterment through pontificating. I'm surprised your angst isn't more geared towards career-firsters instead of those literally doing what you want and that is contributing to society by creating more people for said society. You should, instead, treat it like a race and motivate the nurturers to be nurturers and the creators to be creators.