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Okay, I admit I'm a bit of a newfag here. Been around about 2 months now, thanks to a friend of mine who clued me in to Qanon… mainly via twitter, but also via qanon.pub.

I started looking in to the proofs, because I wasn't going to waste my time on it if I saw it was just a fake. I looked for it to be fake SO hard! I spent a lot of time going through Q Proofs… and I must say, MOST of them are unconvincing due to them being very easy to wave away due to a very common logical fallacy known as "post hoc ergo propter hoc".

"Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a logical fallacy that states "Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X." It is often shortened simply to post hoc fallacy."

The other logically fallacious reasoning I saw a lot of proofs falling for was the whole post hoc confirmation bias. "We want Q to be true, so we will take what he says AFTER an event as evidence that he knew the event would happen"… For example…

• Trump tweets something… 15 minutes later Trump tweets something again.

• Q posts saying [15]

• Anons say "OMG, he said 15! What could it mean? Look at Trumps latest tweets! They're 15 minutes apart! Q MUST BE CLOSE TO THE PRESIDENT!"

If you can apply Occam's Razor to find a simpler explanation that requires fewer assumptions, where you can reasonably find a non-conspiratorial way to explain it all… then it's not a "proof" at all… it's just noise that actually serves to discredit.

Let me repeat that: ANYTHING that is billed as a "proof" that is not rock solid, actually hinders the "proving" of Q.

As for me, I'm fucking relentless… so I kept looking… and to be honest, I was turned off by all the autistic "you have to connect these 14 disparate things that were said, that are not at all rationally connected, to prove Q is legit" stuff. I have seen people connect dots that aren't actually connected at all… which is all part of the process, I suppose… but trash proofs must be recognized and thrown out when shown to be trash.

That confirmation bias basically comes down to the whole "I WANT TO BELIEVE SOOO BAD!" mentality that many of us have… because we WANT to see justice done! We all KNOW HRC is evil and corrupt and has had people murdered… we all KNOW she deserves to hang for her treason against the country we all love…

But we MUST be disciplined in our logic!

The question I found myself asking was this… would Q… obviously a very disciplined and intelligent person… would this person set up a pattern of posting that matched this whole Q clock thing? Seriously? Do you REALLY think some Autist in the White House is sitting around plotting dates and such in a spiral around a clock face? I find that rather incredulous.

>>1978185

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So I looked for simpler proofs… and the funny thing is, the thing that really "did it" for me, was the "Tip Top" thing.

January 2018, an Anon asks Q to have POTUS verify Q by saying "Tip Top" in the SOTU address.

Here's my thinking…

Assume Q is legit.

Put myself in Q's position…

I know that Black Hats are watching the Q posts… it's a public board.

I don't want to be TOO obvious.

I discuss it with POTUS. He says "no, not in the SOTU, but maybe in another speech, with a larger time distance from the request? Maybe in something that fewer people are watching… something not so consequential."

And so… Easter Sunday…

"Also, I want to thank the White House Historical Association and all of the people that work so hard with Melania, with everybody, to keep this incredible house or building, or whatever you want to call it — because there really is no name for it; it is special — and we keep it in (((tip-top))) shape. We call it sometimes (((tippy-top))) shape. And it’s a great, great place."

Now, back to my own analysis of it…

He fit "tip top" into (((A))) speech… not the SOTU, but as I said… that would be too obvious, too close in time… I forgive them for not catering EXACTLY to the request.

But to make up for it, and HIGHLIGHT the signal… he repeated it, in a comical way that was sure to draw scorn and ridicule. Saying "TIPPY TOP" was a way to highlight it, and draw attention to it.

I do not believe Trump is a STUPID man, nor is he the CLOWN that people believe him to be. I believe he has taken from the George H. W. Bush playbook of talking simply in public… (HW Bush was actually quite brilliant… you don't get to fly fighter jets if you're an idiot) so as to not alienate "the folks", and maybe mask his own brilliance, to keep his enemies off balance… making them underestimate him.

So for him to act all comical… to say "Tippy Top"… is out of character. THAT was an obvious sign (to me at least) that he was intentionally signaling to Qanon Patriots that Q is legit.

>>1978194

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Then came the NK thing. By this time I was already pretty well-versed in the Qanon movement, and understood that it was likely that Trump had already met with KJU… For me, that whole "proof" was a more long, drawn out, and far less "meme-able" proof. For me it was all about the confidence Trump brought to the table regarding NK.

I saw the play being acted out in front of me. I saw Trump, knowing he had already won, play the game with KJU… each playing their part in a public show… KJU had to act kinda tough, Trump had to be willing to walk away due to the tough talk, which brought KJU to the table… Trump was the strong man, but let KJU retain his dignity…

And here I was thinking… "The ONLY way this summit happens is if it was all for show… the only way Trump behaves with such bravado and confidence, is if he knows he's already won and KJU is already on our side."

I firmly believe that KJU wants to have his country out from under China's thumb… doesn't LIKE being a brutal dictator… He didn't ASK for it… he was born in to it… and was being controlled by the "old guard" generals… His strings needed to be cut.

Do I believe the C_A had anything to do with it? Not sure there… it remains to be seen… But I DO understand that KJU was stuck in a situation where he couldn't get out on his own. If he goes soft, he's killed by his own inner circle. So he had to play the game of being a brutal dictator, until he could get outside help. Ironically, that door was opened by Dennis Fucking Rodman… (Who was on my Bulls, and helped with a 2nd Three-Peat! Woot woot!)

Anyway… THAT whole scenario and situation sealed the deal for me.

>>1978205

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The pictures from AF1 didn't convince me of anything.

The convoluted Q clock and time codes and "delta" times… did nothing to convince me.

Even the attacks on Q ("All this for a LARP?"), and the argument that a LARP would be ignored… "So it must be real if they're going to attack it so hard"… that argument fell flat with me as well… (People attack Alex Jones, and he's a fucking idiot that's only in it to sell vitamin supplements)…

I, personally, don't see Trump drawing Qs in the air at his rallies… they're just hand gestures…

Anyway… why am I posting all of this?

Because it's important to understand… MOST people won't dive this deep. MOST people won't see all the connections I have seen. MOST people won't understand the psychology of it all. MOST people will give up if not given a direct and verifiable rock solid "IN YOUR FACE" proof…

I am very well educated. I have a degree in education. Middle Grades Math and Social Science. I am well-read in American History, Economics, and Political Science. I also may be "on the spectrum"… at least a tiny bit. (Not sure, never got formally tested or diagnosed… but my family swears I'm an Aspie…)

And I'm telling you… not a single "Normie" friend of mine believes this shit.

And I am making a fool of myself talking about it on social media, and with friends and family IRL.

I thought some MAJOR shit was going to go down June 10th. I posted about it on FB… my family and friends were like "What? What will happen?" and I'm like "I'm not sure, just got a feeling… got some sources that are telling me that day will be rather important, with major happenings…"

And… nothing…

The IG report dropped, and I was chomping at the bit!

Then… while it wasn't the "nothingburger" most people thought it was (there was major stuff in there, if you wanted to put 2 and 2 together, and if you knew all the players and their previous statements, and how the information contradicted itself…)

But, my fellow Anons… you MUST understand this… THE GENERAL POPULATION DOESN'T HAVE THE ATTENTION SPAN NOR THE DESIRE to look into this any more than a surface-only skimming…

They want the CLIFF NOTES version of it all!

Which is why we MEME, I suppose… but that's not enough!

>>1978208

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We need REAL PROOFS!

Q promised proofs… Marine One Proofs (June 15th) which never came.

AF1 (inside) after… Never happened.

Q discredited him/herself with that failure to produce what was promised.

My friends and family are laughing at me even harder…

Now we have a PROMISE that the WORLD will know the truth as of July 2018! (Q post 1595, made June 26th)

What should I say to my friends and family?

"This Q guy is predicting major shit will go down this month, guys… he's MADE the promise… if he keeps it, holy shit, hold on to your hats, because it'll blow your mind!"

See, it's important to give the NORMIES such forewarning… so when shit DOES happen, you can say "See? I told you so! Do you believe me now? This Q shit is for real!"

But I'm afraid to even mention it! I am afraid to put my faith in Q's promises, because those promises have been broken before! (see Marine One and AF1 proofs)…

He keeps promising PAIN!

He keeps saying it as if it's IMMINENT… then … fizzle NOTHING…

Or maybe there's "pain" in a way that we all really don't understand… pain that the black hat actors are hiding very well… Panic and Pain that cause them to scramble in the shadows and plot and counter-attack in ways we are unaware of…

But thus far NO FUCKING PAIN HAS OCCURRED that fucking MATTERS!

I find myself growing more and more unwilling to hitch my wagon to the horse that is Q. Q has let me down… promising pain, which I promise to my friends and family is coming… and it doesn't come… and I end up looking like the boy who cried wolf.

"Sure, sure… we heard this last month… "

"You still believe in that Q crap? Didn't he make a prediction last month that didn't happen?"

So the other option is to SHUT UP about it and NOT try to awaken the public. But that's not what Q wants from us, is it? He wants us to WAKE THE WORLD, right?

So seriously… what am I to do?

I'll tell you what I am going to do.

I am going to put my faith in Q one last time.

I am going to tell everyone to watch for major truth to be revealed in July.

If what Q predicted doesn't happen, and I look like a fucking IDIOT on this one? I'm done. I'm out.

Because Trump's got a nice slogan…

"Promises Made, Promises Kept"

Well, as far as I'm concerned, Q made a promise with that June 26th post:

July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH.

Conspiracy no more.

Time to FEED.

If that promise is not kept… Real or not, Q can fucking blow me.

As for this board… Not much has been going on here that's worthy of my time or attention…

After I post this, I'm going to spend some time listening to some 70s Lite Rock… and re-reading Qanon.pub… beginning to end… and digging… and digging… and trying to understand it all.

Because… Fuck all the shills on this board lately… hardly worth my time to filter through it all.

>>1978242

Well, I do type 100wpm… former IT professional, codefag…

But TBH, I pretyped all that and copy/pasted :)

>>1978255

Problem is… until it happens, it's just piss in the wind.

I don't care what Q SAYS… I care that what Q promises WILL happen, actually HAPPENS…

So far it's been all promises, no action.

>>1978366

2 things…

1) Do you REALLY believe the Q post number was PLANNED to correspond to a congressional bill #? This is the kind of autistic shit that I just can't see Q pre-planning and executing.

2) Why is "Hezbollah" misspelled in the bill name? Hizballah?

>>1978392

Thanks… oddly enough, I needed a bit of validation. Comfy now… ty :)

>>1978371

Yeah… you know nothing of the man.

I have talked with people who served in his fucking cabinet. One of my college professors was an advisor in that WH… worked on health care legislation…

Behind closed doors, the dude was sharp as a fucking tack. His National Security Advisor was intimidated by him because the dude knew more about what was going on around the world than HE did… he would ask questions about one country or another, and the NSA guy would be like… "what? Oh, uh, let me get back to you on that"… dude had a fucking genius level IQ… his public persona was a fucking act.

Do a little research into it… I dare ya… or you can remain a hateful asshole… up to you.

>>1978478

Sometimes I wish there was a way for us to actually contact each other off the chan board here… it's so hard to find like-minded friends on all this…

I tell ya what… Let's see how autistic you can be…

TPdF67

That will get you in touch with me… let's see if you can figure it out. :)