of histories purported long lived,
either divide age by number of lunar cycles in a solar year
or
perhaps a family name masquerading as an individual,
goes far in masking family plans.
if a perfect circle is considered an 'ideal'.
a broken circle (spiral) would the equal opposite.
zero is an oblong circle, mid step between,
the ideal (non-physical existence) and the departure from ideal, spiral / physical existence.