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So, good technique to try. Just ask questions, don't ever 'tell' or preach. Example:
'did Bill Gates ever talk publicly about his association with Epstein?" then go look it up together.
vs
"Bill Gates SMIRKED and said blah blah when asked about Epstein"
this makes it a journey you join the subject on versus a border you are trying to force them to cross.