Anonymous ID: 28c393 July 1, 2018, 11:26 a.m. No.1986405   🗄️.is 🔗kun

>>1984605

>Nothing is more powerful than the public being awake and collectively free-thinking / talking / etc.

>Stay UNITED!

>Q

 

As a long-time fan of G. Edward Griffin's ideas on Individualism versus Collectivism, I can certainly understand how some liberty minded anons here might have some reservations about Q's use of the word “collectively” here.

 

G. Edward Griffin- On Individualism v Collectivism #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bys8CLAFhUs

 

After all, "collectivism" from a Marxist perspective implies group conformity around a central idea, which is fundamentally INCOMPATIBLE with “free thinking” individuals. I don’t speak for Q, but I also don’t believe it was his intent to introduce what many (mostly the Qanon naysayers) will surely allege is a contradiction by combining these two words in the same sentence. Thus, in order to be proactive in this future assault, let me propose an idea to think about to see if we can come together for some dialogue on this subject.

 

Like the age-old debate in Psychology and Biology over the role of Nature (genes) vs Nurture (environment), we know that in the real world, the life of an organism reflects a combination of BOTH forces at work and never only involves just one or the other. And when thinking about wave/particle duality in Physics, when can conceptualize an electron as a discrete "particle", but also as part of a wave function where it can affect the movement of other electrons in an interference pattern.

 

So, my own thinking about “collectivism” has evolved in recent years to where I now believe that "collectivism" is desirable and necessary so long as groups can organically nucleate and extinguish themselves from the level of the individual (bottom up) as opposed to being artificially created and maintained from a centralized authority (top down). Paraphrasing Q, "There is no bigger threat to a 'centralized authority' (e.g. the State) than the public being awake and thinking for themselves."

 

When I read those words from Q, I was reminded of these words from Leo Tolstoy,

 

"…it is that unconquerable force which constitutes real genuine public opinion - that Spirit of Truth while itself advancing that moves all humanity.

 

The State knows this, and trembles before this force, and strives through its envy in every way it can to counteract or become possessed of it. They know that strength is not in force, but in the action of the mind, and in its clear expression, and, therefore, they are more afraid of the expression of independent thought than of armies; hence they institute censorship, bribe the media, and monopolize the control of religion, science, and education.

 

But this spiritual force which moves the world eludes them; it is neither in books nor in papers; it cannot be trapped and is always free; it is in the depths of consciousness of each individual. The most powerful force of freedom which cannot be imprisoned is that which asserts itself in the soul of an individual when s/he is alone, in silence, and then naturally communicates his/her thoughts to a spouse, sibling, or friend; those from whom s/he would regard it as dishonest to conceal the Truth."

 

Thus, as long as we are FREE to speak (1st amendment) and have constructive dialogue with one another and the ability to protect ourselves (2nd amendment) from "mob rule run amuck” then we should not worry so much about coming together “collectively” under the banner of Liberty and TRUTH, regardless of our diverse individual differences. After all, THIS IS preciously what our founders did to TAKE a stand against the tyranny of the "globalist" British Empire.