I went down a personal rabbit hole and ran across the Between Two Ferns episode with a certain would-be-president and it felt like there might be something useful in there.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/b2fc974d1d/between-two-ferns-with-zach-galifianakis-hillary-clinton?playlist=135161

>>1998358

Oh, sorry, I didn't pick up on anything specific. My wild tangent went a bit deep and I just shared it out of a hunch i felt when I ran across it.